New AHFS 2011

[MikeFicacci]

Are you trying to compare the 450 rated 12.5:1 Viper engine to the horsepower rating of a 427/425? The most recent Viper was rated at 600 horsepower and thats with 10.2:1 compression, a smaller cam, and a smaller intake. Not three days ago someone made the comment of how bad the 6.4 Hemi was because it was 2 points down from the 6.1. Using your factor.....1.3 x 600 = 780. 1.6 x 600 = 960 and thats with the factory specs. 800-900 horsepower is not out of the question with these motors with a good engine builder and tuner. People have gotten close with the factory specs.

I'm all on board with the Challengers because at this point its clear they are not going anywhere but its just funny how some people are actually trying to justify these horsepower ratings. A Challenger with a Viper motor on steriods? Awesome!! It's definitely going to be cool to see these cars going down the track in Stock as short lived as it may be. Just personally don't see the fun of running a combo grossly under-factored. No one is looking at these guys, (besides each other), and saying "wow, thats awesome, you guys did a good job."

No matter what side of the fence you stand on, you have to look at these numbers and just shake your head and laugh. At the end of the day, that's all anyone on the starting line is doing when they go down the track.

[Jeff Teuton]

Chad, didn't you get 10 or 20 taken off your combo? What a system. If I had gotten 20 off my old car, I would still have it. I think you and the Sammy got the benefit of that.

[Andys dad]

Not too long ago we were talking about the first stocker in the 9s now the question is -

Will it be a blown CJ or V10 Challenger to be the first stocker in the 8s?

The snake wars will be interesting a Viper against a Cobra.

Sorry I could not help my self Jeff.

I think they will be in A/FX next year @ 7.0 lbs.

9.17 and 142 at Milan just kidding/guessing/hoping

I am bored at work today


:-) peace

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

Chad, didn't you get 10 or 20 taken off your combo? What a system. If I had gotten 20 off my old car, I would still have it. I think you and the Sammy got the benefit of that.

Jeff, our car is a 435, not the 400. It was a 400 till 2008. I have written several letters to get HP off the 435 to no avail. The low rise 3x2 intake is nowhere near as good as the 372 intake on the 425, and the extra CFM don't make up for it.

I also wish we would have kept the 400 stuff, its a better combo for sure now. Look at Dave Casey ( not sure if he is the 400 but I'm pretty sure it is).

[Jeff Teuton]

RJ and all my other buddies, there might be help on the way. Keep the faith, and keep the beverages chilled till we see what happens. Trust me.

[Greg Hill]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

RJ and all my other buddies, there might be help on the way. Keep the faith, and keep the beverages chilled till we see what happens. Trust me.

Jeff if something happens I will see you down south in March. If not I will be staying close to home.

[art leong]

I was just told by nhra that the competion commitee was responsible for the new afhs.
Was this the best our guys could come up with?
It will save us all a lot of money. just get a car to run 6 tenths under and they will take care of it for you. The fast guys (if they choose to) will be moved two or three classes at a time.
The slow cars will be defactored.
There is no longer any reason for R&D or buying parts.
I was having trouble with my transbrake. Spent weeks and about $1000 trying to duplicate it, i have a set of Individual Throttle Bodies good for 10 horsepower over the stock type box manifold I run now. I have a set of solid lifters (I've been running hydraulics)I was thinking about spending a grand or so on a step/merge collector header.
I walked through the PRI show today and thought to myself "What Am I Doing Here".
I ran 6 tenths under in so-so air leaving at an idle (brake not working). So I'm just going to put the govenor and a stock valve body, back in the trans and just put it in D for DragRace
I'm going to save a ton of bucks but I don't know if I'll enjoy it. I've always driven up the return road thinking of what to do to make the car faster.
Thanks Guys

[Tony Janes]

You will like it if you win the eliminator.

[Frank Bialas]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

Jeff, our car is a 435, not the 400. It was a 400 till 2008. I have written several letters to get HP off the 435 to no avail. The low rise 3x2 intake is nowhere near as good as the 372 intake on the 425, and the extra CFM don't make up for it.

I also wish we would have kept the 400 stuff, its a better combo for sure now. Look at Dave Casey ( not sure if he is the 400 but I'm pretty sure it is).

Jeff/Chad NHRA DOES-NOT giveaway 10/20 HP to anybody, I know every-time it's been +6 or just enough so the 440-6pak COULD-NOT PLAY WITH THE 396/375 AND OR THE TRUE BLUE 428's. Must have been a bad boy this year again, cause no xmas gift from NHRA again!!! Your right as intimidating/nasty the carbs and hole in the hood look it's not the best combo, and the really bad thing about running MOPAR is NO after-market heads,intakes, or carbs, OH AND NO ALUMINUM STUFF either!!! The 417 factor stays maybe because there are only a handful of us running the BIG-B-BODY!!! And even the better factored E-BODIES really struggle to compete and I believe they stayed @-405HP too bad that they couldn't tighten us up a bit, so the OLD stuff/guys could still play. THE END MAY BE CLOSER THAN WE THINK - - - - ONE NEVER KNOWS!!!!


Jeff 2010#14DP is still on back burner - all the way back burner, long story hope we can get a jump on it over the winter.

[Ed Wright]

So, you think NHRA was giving your engine hp to help the GM racers? Not because somebody hit the hp trigger (twice) and your engine's average was too far under? Do you really believe that? If you could not get your car going that fast, somebody evidently was.
Your DP will be fast. You don't need to know anything to put one of those over a second under. For now anyway.