What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See

[billy leber]

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman

I dont understand the bitchin about the tree.
My old car at 2750# and a 30year old 468 still had .020 to .030 in the box on a .370 tree.
They put all those holes in the 4 link and knobs on the shocks fo a reason ya know!
I have to run as much as .080 in the box at the MASGA races on a true .4 tree..and let me tell you it sucks when you have that much in ,when you miss the tree, you REALLY miss the tree!

Agree with Tom, Im all for a .350 tree,maybe even lower! Sorry Fletchburg.

[Rich Biebel]

How about a tree for old guys...LOL

I had .050 in the box with my old dragster on a .400 tree at Numidia and was .006 one round. That was the fastest I can ever recall being on a Pro Tree.


Tom my friend you know I know all about not being able to get under a .430 or .440 shallow on a .400 Tree.......I once had 3 sets of front wheels and tires.....and used them to try and adjust my RT's......A little roll does wonders though untill you turn it red.........been there and done that.....

[Tom Goldman]

Originally Posted by billy leber

Agree with Tom, Im all for a .350 tree,maybe even lower! Sorry Fletchburg.

Billy, I thought Iggy and myself were the only ones in favor of a .350 tree!!
Some of these guys just dont get it , it dosnt matter what you call the tree .4 .5 , .370. If everyone can hit a .000 light and go red at will without having to work at making it happen where is the skill involved?
Super classes have become something that a lot of racers see as something to jump into when they feel like it , and go bracket racing every other time.
Most of the successful Super class racers know that there are serious compromises to be made on a car to be able to hit the tree at any track , in any weather. ....And it's not just about having huge HP or big motors.....I know of more than a few low HP cars with ladder bar suspension that can hit the tree........ ... I've tried to help a few racers with RT's over the years,most only needed to make a few small changes to their chassis setup,but I repetedly heard, Oh, I cant Bracket race it like that!
If you cant hit the tree as it is , then maybe the Super classes arent for you. ...And I dont mean any disrespect to you as a racer or to your equipment, it's just that as a racer who has raced in the Super Classes since their inception, I've seen a lot of changes in the class , good and bad . ....Many good racers have gone back to Brackets rather than adapt to the realities that make a car competitive in the .90 classes.

[sstSteveM]

Cal,

As a new fan, what was it about your first experience at the race,
that attracted you to do more of it? You said you were surprised
you liked it, why was that, what were your preconceived notions?

I feel as though you entered reluctantly expecting to not go back?

-steve

[cal]

Originally Posted by sstSteveM

Cal,

As a new fan, what was it about your first experience at the race,
that attracted you to do more of it? You said you were surprised
you liked it, why was that, what were your preconceived notions?

I feel as though you entered reluctantly expecting to not go back?

-steve

I live about 20 miles from MIR. I was a Bracket racer in the late 70s though the 80s
to about 96 when I gave it up. I didn't go to a race for about 6 years, then went to the
Presidents Cup at MIR. I started going back to the track once in a while with Robert Jones and his TS 63 Corvette. in 2008 or so I decided I wanted another car and started looking. I finally bought my 2nd Corvette, and started playing with it on Friday night and Saturdays at MIR. Its kinda like riding a bike, but you gotta learn everything all over again.

Well the Nitro Jam was approching fast and Robert wanted me to bring my 2 golf carts to the track. Dale Koncens who runs QR was on me to enter HR and the car was there because I brung both golf carts. So I entered the race. I never was a big fan of index racing because of the leaving lifting takeing off again, but I figured what the heck lets try it. I had never left on a Pro Tree till that Sat morning. Or for that matter a trans brake in this car. ( I had been foot brakeing the car) On my 1st pass I had a .127 light and ran a 10.897, and I thought it was pretty cool, on the 2nd pass had a .030 light and ran a 10.922 and I was hooked.
Not really sure if it was the Pro Tree I liked or the idea of running heads up. I did also win 1st rd running a 10.92 lifting, I think it was like a .050 light. I lost a super close 2nd rd to Keith Meyer (?) I belive I had a .038 to his .030 I ran a 10.907 to his 10.904 losing by .011 about a ft at the stripe. I know I have a lot to learn about index racing, getting the car dailed in with the new motor, which should run in the high 9s, learning how to throttle stop, timers ect ect ect.

It looks like 4 or 5 IHRA events, and possible 3 to 4 NHRA events. and possible a index series at a track near you. LOL

Calvin Starcher
HR 177X

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by cal

I live about 20 miles from MIR. I was a Bracket racer in the late 70s though the 80s
to about 96 when I gave it up. I didn't go to a race for about 6 years, then went to the
Presidents Cup at MIR. I started going back to the track once in a while with Robert Jones and his TS 63 Corvette. in 2008 or so I decided I wanted another car and started looking. I finally bought my 2nd Corvette, and started playing with it on Friday night and Saturdays at MIR. Its kinda like riding a bike, but you gotta learn everything all over again.

Well the Nitro Jam was approching fast and Robert wanted me to bring my 2 golf carts to the track. Dale Koncens who runs QR was on me to enter HR and the car was there because I brung both golf carts. So I entered the race. I never was a big fan of index racing because of the leaving lifting takeing off again, but I figured what the heck lets try it. I had never left on a Pro Tree till that Sat morning. Or for that matter a trans brake in this car. ( I had been foot brakeing the car) On my 1st pass I had a .127 light and ran a 10.897, and I thought it was pretty cool, on the 2nd pass had a .030 light and ran a 10.922 and I was hooked.
Not really sure if it was the Pro Tree I liked or the idea of running heads up. I did also win 1st rd running a 10.92 lifting, I think it was like a .050 light. I lost a super close 2nd rd to Keith Meyer (?) I belive I had a .038 to his .030 I ran a 10.907 to his 10.904 losing by .011 about a ft at the stripe. I know I have a lot to learn about index racing, getting the car dailed in with the new motor, which should run in the high 9s, learning how to throttle stop, timers ect ect ect.

It looks like 4 or 5 IHRA events, and possible 3 to 4 NHRA events. and possible a index series at a track near you. LOL

Calvin Starcher
HR 177X

Cal.....Its 70 degrees here today, sunny and a nice breeze. Have ALL of my widows open. I sure dont miss the cold and snow in Md. Have a nice Christmas. I will stop in and say hi next time Im up there (In the summer....LOL).

[cal]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Cal.....Its 70 degrees here today, sunny and a nice breeze. Have ALL of my widows open. I sure dont miss the cold and snow in Md. Have a nice Christmas. I will stop in and say hi next time Im up there (In the summer....LOL).

No tell me it aint so. 70 Bummer its 30 here and snowing .
You should be glad you moved outta here. LOL

Yes stop by the slot car track next time your in town, it'll be great to see you again.

Cal
HR 177X