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Old 12-11-2010, 09:50 PM   #11
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wgaf about the hood, how'd he get that much tire under it?

anybody have any contact info?
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Old 12-11-2010, 11:58 PM   #12
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Not to steal the thread...

But who's car is this (I found on Kenny Keir's site) and what class does it run?

I'm suspecting SS/C....

anybody?

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Old 12-12-2010, 01:56 AM   #13
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Ken built that car and it's a real SC/Rambler. It was built for SS/H with a 390 4bbl and I believe a G-Force trans.
The car was never taken to the track from all the reports I have heard.
It was on ebay for around $50K by the owner. In the ad it said it was taken down the track and I believe it said 9.80's @ 138 or so. Frankly, it doesn't ad up.
What I heard is the owner was afraid of the car and didn't want to drive it. That makes more sense.
I also have heard from a reliable source the engine made something like 525 HP and was built by Barton Machine. That's a pretty pathetic number for a SS 390 and would not support 9.80's @ 138 MPH. So I tend to believe the guy never raced it.
Then the car was sold by a dealer. I believe it sold for $50K and that included a nice enclosed trailer. I don't know who owns it but I've hear rumor it will be raced. I certainly hope so.
Other than the engine, the car seems to be quite awesome. Ken Kier knows how to build a car and this would be one to own. The engine can be fixed and all it takes is more money!
BTW - the '69 390 is NHRA rated now at 290 HP, 25 less than my 1970 390. It should be very competitive in SS/H and has the potential to be a class winner. That is probably the best scoop out there and it has to help.
Take off the scoop and you can run it with a 343 4bbl @ 265 HP or a 290 4bbl @ 210 HP with the 290 being the favorite of the three right now; although the 390 would be the most fun.

Just found the old ad:
http://www.collectorcarads.com/Rambl...crambler/26768
Ad says 565 HP which is certainly better than 525 HP. Somebody needs to take it down the track!
More pictures:
http://www.autobarnclassiccars.com/v....aspx?Item=298
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Old 12-12-2010, 09:20 AM   #14
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When Ken first went into business back in the mid 70's he restored a nice SC/Rambler and it looked like show room quality. I remeber drooling over it.....LOL. My SS/IA 68 Camaro was the first car Ken did before he found commercial shop space to work out of. He is one of the best and I believe he could weld tin foil together....lol.
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:03 AM   #15
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Ken built that car and it's a real SC/Rambler. It was built for SS/H with a 390 4bbl and I believe a G-Force trans.
The car was never taken to the track from all the reports I have heard.
It was on ebay for around $50K by the owner. In the ad it said it was taken down the track and I believe it said 9.80's @ 138 or so. Frankly, it doesn't ad up.
What I heard is the owner was afraid of the car and didn't want to drive it. That makes more sense.
I also have heard from a reliable source the engine made something like 525 HP and was built by Barton Machine. That's a pretty pathetic number for a SS 390 and would not support 9.80's @ 138 MPH. So I tend to believe the guy never raced it.
Then the car was sold by a dealer. I believe it sold for $50K and that included a nice enclosed trailer. I don't know who owns it but I've hear rumor it will be raced. I certainly hope so.
Other than the engine, the car seems to be quite awesome. Ken Kier knows how to build a car and this would be one to own. The engine can be fixed and all it takes is more money!
BTW - the '69 390 is NHRA rated now at 290 HP, 25 less than my 1970 390. It should be very competitive in SS/H and has the potential to be a class winner. That is probably the best scoop out there and it has to help.
Take off the scoop and you can run it with a 343 4bbl @ 265 HP or a 290 4bbl @ 210 HP with the 290 being the favorite of the three right now; although the 390 would be the most fun.

Just found the old ad:
http://www.collectorcarads.com/Rambl...crambler/26768
Ad says 565 HP which is certainly better than 525 HP. Somebody needs to take it down the track!
More pictures:
http://www.autobarnclassiccars.com/v....aspx?Item=298
i'd be GLAD too...
and i promise to hammer the hell out of it
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That is one slick little Rambler.
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Old 12-12-2010, 04:41 PM   #17
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I am no AMC expert, but I believe the 69 SC/Rambler that were equipped with that scoop were functional, using a vacuum operated flapper door similar to the 1969 Torino/Cyclone and 69/70 Cougars. Is that correct? Also, I believe that the 390 SC/Ramblers were also all 4 speeds, is that also correct? Since this Rambler American 2 door sedan is shown at a NHRA santioned track, in M/SA, how is he allowed to run that scoop, functional or not? Wouldn`t that be like a 68-69 Barracuda with a 340, 383, or 440 Stocker using a SS/AH Hemi hood scoop? Or a cowl induction hood on a 67-68 Z/28, or Boss 429 scoop on a 428 CJ Mustang? Just curious.
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Old 12-12-2010, 05:13 PM   #18
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Jeff Lee will address I'm sure but think your correct on the SC. Think the non-functional scoop is a discretionary thing on the part of NHRA tech since it clearly offers no performance advantage. Is it technically incorrect, sure; but it would be chicken-***** to bust him on it just like it was to bust Art for his non-functional louver fenders on his Neon.
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Old 12-12-2010, 06:29 PM   #19
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I am no AMC expert, but I believe the 69 SC/Rambler that were equipped with that scoop were functional, using a vacuum operated flapper door similar to the 1969 Torino/Cyclone and 69/70 Cougars. Is that correct? Also, I believe that the 390 SC/Ramblers were also all 4 speeds, is that also correct? Since this Rambler American 2 door sedan is shown at a NHRA santioned track, in M/SA, how is he allowed to run that scoop, functional or not? Wouldn`t that be like a 68-69 Barracuda with a 340, 383, or 440 Stocker using a SS/AH Hemi hood scoop? Or a cowl induction hood on a 67-68 Z/28, or Boss 429 scoop on a 428 CJ Mustang? Just curious.
Refer back to my post on page 1.It came from the NHRA rulebook.I don't know which one though,the East coast or West coast version.
The SC/Ramblers were all 2 dr non post cars,390,4speed in A and B paint schemes.All had functional ram air setups.They built 1512 of them.They cost $2,995.Road test times were 14.30 with grandma driving.They really would go 13.90s.
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Thanks Jeff for the info & link

It's Very Nice... and worth your time to check it out here...

http://www.autobarnclassiccars.com/v....aspx?Item=298
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