What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See - Page 10

mpowerptg · 12-22-2010, 09:25 PM

I am new here to this forum, but i have been a div.1 racer for 15 years, i have always liked the heads up class racing, as well as stock and super stock. i have always thought these were the guys who keep the sport alive. i want to do some super street racing this year, so i have been watching the updates,and what is being said here. Over the years, i have seen alot of changes in racing, but the bottom line is, its not how good your equipment is, its how you use it, it all about the lite, and run the number, no matter how you do it, you have to be better than the guy in the other lane to win. to many rule changes will only hurt racing. just my 2 cents.

BLIND MULE · 12-23-2010, 10:29 PM

My dad made the previous post on this subject. But now I have a question for some of you. What difference does it make if its a tube car or a back half car? It has to be 2800lbs so I dont understand. We ran a stock suspension mustang (28x10.5w tire)that weighed 3200lbs in ORSCA 7.00. I had .025 in the box on a .400 tree and it was deadly. We worked our butts off to get it that way because it dang sure wasn't like that when we brought it out. If you have a back half, big tire, car that wont cut it in S/ST you dont need to be on here you need to be out in the shop working on it.

JMatt · 12-24-2010, 03:58 PM

Didn't they say the NHRA would publish the results of the Poll? I saw some stats on how many people responded, but not on what their responses were.

Tom Goldman · 12-24-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BLIND MULE

My dad made the previous post on this subject. But now I have a question for some of you. What difference does it make if its a tube car or a back half car? It has to be 2800lbs so I dont understand. We ran a stock suspension mustang (28x10.5w tire)that weighed 3200lbs in ORSCA 7.00. I had .025 in the box on a .400 tree and it was deadly. We worked our butts off to get it that way because it dang sure wasn't like that when we brought it out. If you have a back half, big tire, car that wont cut it in S/ST you dont need to be on here you need to be out in the shop working on it.

Finaly someone who understands you have to earn the light ,it's not given to you!

cal · 12-25-2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BLIND MULE

My dad made the previous post on this subject. But now I have a question for some of you. What difference does it make if its a tube car or a back half car? It has to be 2800lbs so I dont understand. We ran a stock suspension mustang (28x10.5w tire)that weighed 3200lbs in ORSCA 7.00. I had .025 in the box on a .400 tree and it was deadly. We worked our butts off to get it that way because it dang sure wasn't like that when we brought it out. If you have a back half, big tire, car that wont cut it in S/ST you dont need to be on here you need to be out in the shop working on it.

I guess it really dosen't make a differance if you set the car up for a pro tree and a pro tree only.
However most of the S/ST - HR cars are run in both Brackets and index classes.

Its also easier to put 900 + HP in a tube chassie car then in the arverage back halfed car.
Making it much easier to get the big MPH to chase down the slower cars. With Back Half type cars only, its not gonna stop the big MPH but it may slow them down from 165 MPH 10.90 cars to 150 MPH 10.90 cars.

I also think the S/ST - HR class has a large varity of differant types of cars in it, fords, chevy's, mopars. Having the class for only back halfed type cars may help preserive this.
10.90 is a pretty easy # for any desent Pro Street car to run these days.

And I've been in the shop working, got a lot to learn, but I'm learning

So I guess my Question to all the tube chassie cars running S/ST & HR at 150 Plus MPH,
Why are you not running S/G or S/R?

LOL Merry Christmas to all

Cal
HR 177X

d1hitter · 12-25-2010, 09:14 AM

If you have a back half, big tire, car that wont cut it in S/ST you dont need to be on here you need to be out in the shop working on it.(quote)
It's not the back of a car that cuts the light, it's the front and a chassis car has struts,.
with a chassis car you can move the weight to the back 40/60, back 1/2 car the weight is mostly on the front 60/40 (stock front susp.)
If they make the class back 1/2 ONLY it would bring more of the footbrakers from (pro or heavy) into Super STREET,also it would take the chassis cars and put them into S/G where they belong.

BLIND MULE · 12-25-2010, 12:31 PM

I have never heard so many grown MEN whine in my life. My other ORSCA vehicle (6.00) was a Back Half s10 with a BBC it weighed 3240 with me in it. It was 62% on the nose. I carried 10 in the box on a .400 tree. Yall can say all you want about this and that but you cant BS me. If you think you need struts to get a bulb on a .500 tree you need to go sell all your stuff and take up shuffle board or Bingo. Second of all who says you have to go 150mph to win? Ill take .005 10.910@130 over .010 10.908@155 all day. They have those quarter windows for a reason, you know.

s/gfairlane · 12-25-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BLIND MULE

I have never heard so many grown MEN whine in my life. My other ORSCA vehicle (6.00) was a Back Half s10 with a BBC it weighed 3240 with me in it. It was 62% on the nose. I carried 10 in the box on a .400 tree. Yall can say all you want about this and that but you cant BS me. If you think you need struts to get a bulb on a .500 tree you need to go sell all your stuff and take up shuffle board or Bingo. Second of all who says you have to go 150mph to win? Ill take .005 10.910@130 over .010 10.908@155 all day. They have those quarter windows for a reason, you know.

I like your post bro.

I have many 10.90x time slips at 147+ it doesn't matter if you go 120 or if you go 160. If you don't know if you are going 10.86 or if your going 10.94 you won't be turning on a win light regardless of the mph u run. Any good driver can win going regardless of how much mph they run.

d1hitter · 12-25-2010, 03:12 PM

Where's the WHINE ?

cal · 12-25-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BLIND MULE

I have never heard so many grown MEN whine in my life. My other ORSCA vehicle (6.00) was a Back Half s10 with a BBC it weighed 3240 with me in it. It was 62% on the nose. I carried 10 in the box on a .400 tree. Yall can say all you want about this and that but you cant BS me. If you think you need struts to get a bulb on a .500 tree you need to go sell all your stuff and take up shuffle board or Bingo. Second of all who says you have to go 150mph to win? Ill take .005 10.910@130 over .010 10.908@155 all day. They have those quarter windows for a reason, you know.

This isn't whineing, try going to Club 400 slot car drag board, now there is some whineing going on over there. Hes got back door parts I can't get. He's got this he's got that. It goes on everywhere, in all forms of racing.

Actully I'm not whineing about anything, I simply made a comment on what I would like to see in the class. I will run what ever rules NHRA/IHRA tells me to.

I will work on my car to get it to react to the tree better. I have already started gaithering parts to make the car better for next season. I'm totally new to Pro Tree & Index racing, I got a lot to learn. I may never be #1 in S/ST or HR but 1 thing for sure I'll be there trying to get better.

And 1 thing for sure it is a lot easier to get a STRUT car to react to a pro tree then it is a A arm car. Never said it can't be done but facts are facts.

Cal
HR 177X

12-22-2010, 09:25 PM	#91
mpowerptg Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See I am new here to this forum, but i have been a div.1 racer for 15 years, i have always liked the heads up class racing, as well as stock and super stock. i have always thought these were the guys who keep the sport alive. i want to do some super street racing this year, so i have been watching the updates,and what is being said here. Over the years, i have seen alot of changes in racing, but the bottom line is, its not how good your equipment is, its how you use it, it all about the lite, and run the number, no matter how you do it, you have to be better than the guy in the other lane to win. to many rule changes will only hurt racing. just my 2 cents.

12-23-2010, 10:29 PM	#92
BLIND MULE Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 318 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See My dad made the previous post on this subject. But now I have a question for some of you. What difference does it make if its a tube car or a back half car? It has to be 2800lbs so I dont understand. We ran a stock suspension mustang (28x10.5w tire)that weighed 3200lbs in ORSCA 7.00. I had .025 in the box on a .400 tree and it was deadly. We worked our butts off to get it that way because it dang sure wasn't like that when we brought it out. If you have a back half, big tire, car that wont cut it in S/ST you dont need to be on here you need to be out in the shop working on it.

12-24-2010, 03:58 PM	#93
JMatt Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 87 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See Didn't they say the NHRA would publish the results of the Poll? I saw some stats on how many people responded, but not on what their responses were. __________________ J Matt Harnish 387C S/G

12-25-2010, 09:14 AM	#96
d1hitter Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: @ the track Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See If you have a back half, big tire, car that wont cut it in S/ST you dont need to be on here you need to be out in the shop working on it.(quote) It's not the back of a car that cuts the light, it's the front and a chassis car has struts,. with a chassis car you can move the weight to the back 40/60, back 1/2 car the weight is mostly on the front 60/40 (stock front susp.) If they make the class back 1/2 ONLY it would bring more of the footbrakers from (pro or heavy) into Super STREET,also it would take the chassis cars and put them into S/G where they belong.

12-25-2010, 12:31 PM	#97
BLIND MULE Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 318 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See I have never heard so many grown MEN whine in my life. My other ORSCA vehicle (6.00) was a Back Half s10 with a BBC it weighed 3240 with me in it. It was 62% on the nose. I carried 10 in the box on a .400 tree. Yall can say all you want about this and that but you cant BS me. If you think you need struts to get a bulb on a .500 tree you need to go sell all your stuff and take up shuffle board or Bingo. Second of all who says you have to go 150mph to win? Ill take .005 10.910@130 over .010 10.908@155 all day. They have those quarter windows for a reason, you know.

12-25-2010, 03:12 PM	#99
d1hitter Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: @ the track Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See Where's the WHINE ?