I am confused

sc321 · 12-28-2010, 08:24 PM

Pondering the race schedule for 2011 I find our operation at cross roads, we have done divisional and nationals for years (**** decades) and getting fed up the paying for the pro to run at nationals. Could someone explain what the insurance preminum is for at nationals, we are at greater risk because of the pro cars on the property? I have not been a member of ihra for 23 years, that may change, not sure if they are any better but as my wife tells me "when is enough ------ enough" ?

SG316V · 12-28-2010, 09:14 PM

from everything I have read on here, the answer appears to be "no". racers have posted that they have asked at the tech trailers and received no answers, also have called the office in Glendora with no response...

TS310C · 12-28-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sc321

Pondering the race schedule for 2011 I find our operation at cross roads, we have done divisional and nationals for years (**** decades) and getting fed up the paying for the pro to run at nationals. Could someone explain what the insurance preminum is for at nationals, we are at greater risk because of the pro cars on the property? I have not been a member of ihra for 23 years, that may change, not sure if they are any better but as my wife tells me "when is enough ------ enough" ?

That is a good point! What is different about a National event? We don't pay this insurance at a division race. This is just a way to get more money out of us and make it seem like it is ok. I know the likelyhood of all (or most) sportsman racers banding together and boycotting the nationals is very small, but that would sure get our point accross!

frank v · 12-29-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TS310C

That is a good point! What is different about a National event? We don't pay this insurance at a division race. This is just a way to get more money out of us and make it seem like it is ok. I know the likelyhood of all (or most) sportsman racers banding together and boycotting the nationals is very small, but that would sure get our point accross!

some people say whats the big deal its only $30 more dollars. the big deal to me is when is it going to stop?!car counts are down for a reason .

TS310C · 12-29-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by frank v

some people say whats the big deal its only $30 more dollars. the big deal to me is when is it going to stop?!car counts are down for a reason .

Yea, I wasn't even talking about the increase. I just meant why are we paying it at all? It is just rediculous. We are doing the same thing at a National that we do at a divisional and we don't pay insurance there. Or should I keep my mouth shut, that may be next.

C and W Racing · 12-29-2010, 01:15 PM

To me, If you own a racetrack and have races on that track, part of the cost of doing busness is knowing that you have to have insurance and medical personell at the time of the event. That is part of doing business and as the owner of said buseness you factor that into the entry fee's. I, feel like most everyone else on this board, that this is nothing more that a way for NHRA to make more money without saying entry fee's went up. If they said it was entry fee's, we as racers would expect an increase in the payout. Which by the way, is long overdue.
Chuck

X-TECH MAN · 12-29-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TS310C

Yea, I wasn't even talking about the increase. I just meant why are we paying it at all? It is just rediculous. We are doing the same thing at a National that we do at a divisional and we don't pay insurance there. Or should I keep my mouth shut, that may be next.

Its the BLOWN FUEL CARS ! You dont see them at a divisional do you. Thats WHY your not paying extra there.

TS310C · 12-29-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Its the BLOWN FUEL CARS ! You dont see them at a divisional do you. Thats WHY your not paying extra there.

I don't know about any of you all, but I have never raced next to a blown fuel car. Nor have I ever driven one at a National event. Therefore I fail to see what that has to do with my insurance. I suppose if I pitted close to the track where one of them could come over the wall and slam into my pit area. What it comes down to is another way for NHRA to get money from us. I have yet to hear any legitimate answer as to why we pay this insurance. And by legitimate I mean that the money we are paying is used for insurance for us and not to fund something unrelated to us.

roseracing · 12-29-2010, 06:32 PM

Here is my assumption (and is probably completely wrong).

I assume that each track is responsible for their own insurance, even when a divisional race comes to town. But, when NHRA brings the National Event to each track - the NHRA is responsible for the insurance because they're using their own equipment and personnel.

And FWIW, If my calculations are correct (400 racers at each of the 23 National Events, paying $95 fee just for insurance) then the NHRA will have collected $874,000 from us racers to help "offset" whatever their insurance premiums are.

Thanks,
Brad Rose

d1hitter · 12-29-2010, 06:58 PM

has anybody put any thought into how many sportsman racers have been injuried or killed this year ?

12-28-2010, 08:24 PM	#1
sc321 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wapakoneta Ohio Posts: 39 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am confused Pondering the race schedule for 2011 I find our operation at cross roads, we have done divisional and nationals for years (**** decades) and getting fed up the paying for the pro to run at nationals. Could someone explain what the insurance preminum is for at nationals, we are at greater risk because of the pro cars on the property? I have not been a member of ihra for 23 years, that may change, not sure if they are any better but as my wife tells me "when is enough ------ enough" ?

12-28-2010, 09:14 PM	#2
SG316V Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 36 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I am confused from everything I have read on here, the answer appears to be "no". racers have posted that they have asked at the tech trailers and received no answers, also have called the office in Glendora with no response...

12-29-2010, 01:15 PM	#6
C and W Racing Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 557 Likes: 6 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: I am confused To me, If you own a racetrack and have races on that track, part of the cost of doing busness is knowing that you have to have insurance and medical personell at the time of the event. That is part of doing business and as the owner of said buseness you factor that into the entry fee's. I, feel like most everyone else on this board, that this is nothing more that a way for NHRA to make more money without saying entry fee's went up. If they said it was entry fee's, we as racers would expect an increase in the payout. Which by the way, is long overdue. Chuck

12-29-2010, 06:32 PM	#9
roseracing Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Sioux City, NE Posts: 108 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I am confused Here is my assumption (and is probably completely wrong). I assume that each track is responsible for their own insurance, even when a divisional race comes to town. But, when NHRA brings the National Event to each track - the NHRA is responsible for the insurance because they're using their own equipment and personnel. And FWIW, If my calculations are correct (400 racers at each of the 23 National Events, paying $95 fee just for insurance) then the NHRA will have collected $874,000 from us racers to help "offset" whatever their insurance premiums are. Thanks, Brad Rose

12-29-2010, 06:58 PM	#10
d1hitter Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: @ the track Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I am confused has anybody put any thought into how many sportsman racers have been injuried or killed this year ?