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Old 01-13-2011, 12:12 PM   #41
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I think many can do it......Just don't want to....I wish I could afford to have someone do it......as we were removing the heads on our vette last night....we were talking about how nice it would be to just send it out and get it freshened.....but we can't afford it so we do it ourselves.....the pride thing doesn't come into play.......the pride thing is when the win light comes on and all 5 of us had a hand in it.....

Don't forget in the old days......you really couldn't buy a turn key race car from the dealer(not an 8.80 one anyway).....at any price.....and you had to do a lot of the work yourself.....now it looks like you can.... It's certainly hard enough to win no matter who built the car.........

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Old 01-13-2011, 03:08 PM   #42
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Heck I could drywall my living room and paint my house, but it takes too much of my time. I would rather pay someone to do it for me in a weeks time and not 6 months. Not much satisfaction when it takes forever to do it yourself.
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:19 PM   #43
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Its about personal choices, opportunities etc. If you have the equipment, time, and skills and the desire for the pride of doing something go for it.
If you can work and earn the money faster than saving it by Doing the work it seems better of more efficient to make this choice.
The degree of technology today in many classes excludes "do it yourself" if you want to be toward the TOP of the qualificatiion sheets...
Time for a CHeap minimal spec class?
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:29 PM   #44
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Dick, how about R/W/B Run whatcha brung
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:40 PM   #45
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Its about personal choices, opportunities etc. If you have the equipment, time, and skills and the desire for the pride of doing something go for it.
If you can work and earn the money faster than saving it by Doing the work it seems better of more efficient to make this choice.
The degree of technology today in many classes excludes "do it yourself" if you want to be toward the TOP of the qualificatiion sheets...
Time for a CHeap minimal spec class?
"CHEAP" is the operational word.....LOL.
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:59 PM   #46
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A lot of the touring drivers cant change a spark plug.
Heck, I can get one APART! Now, puttin' it back together might be a different deal. I'm not fast, but have pulled/installed motors a number of times, etc.

That being said, the conversation is kind of a moot point. Technology has gone past the grassroots hot-rodder for the most part, you're not going to put that genie back in the bottle, and really there's not much reinventing of the wheel left to do. Michael Jordan probably isn't very good at making basketballs, but he can sure shoot one... and you can't buy skill!

My checkbook is awful small (although I've made some strides since the double-digit days of just a few years ago), and rely on folks like Tim Sloan, Scott Macy, Billy Nees, et.al. to do the things that they specialize in. I've done lettering for their cars. Sure, lettering isn't a performance item, but it's something that people pay me to do, because it's something they can't do themselves. There's nothing wrong with that. (Uh, that's kind of how the economy works!)

While I have a tremendous amount of respect for those that can do everything, understand that not everyone can.
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:29 PM   #47
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As I read the threads on the new Mustangs and Challengers. I see that the cars are factory built as a race car. Then taken to a chassis shop, then a body/paint shop, then an engine is purchased from a builder, etc,etc and then in some cases someone else drives it! If you take that senario and win with it, Do you feel like a winner? If you do, I'm happy for you and to each his own. I guess I'm just old school, but I see that as a fan with a check book or a sugar daddy. It tickles me to watch sports on TV and see the fans screaming for their team to win. They feel, that they are a winner if their team wins! When they did'nt throw the ball, catch the ball, hit the ball, etc, nothing, notta, no effort at all, just watch! How can you be a winner, if all you do is watch what somebody else did to win! "The glory belongs to the man in the arena". Now I know there are many out there that would say it's a team thing. I respect that, and agree somewhat, (being a retired career firefighter) and know the importance of the team concept. In the big game, if I'm on the bench or in the dugout all game and the team wins....I'm a winner.....but I sure don't feel like one! (my opinion only) Where has the pride of building your own car gone?

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Old 01-13-2011, 06:14 PM   #48
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So I guess Buddy Martin shouldnt be proud of what he did since he owned the cars and never drove them. Or how about almost every NASCAR TEAM there are only 3 owner drivers out there, Or Vinney Barone for spending money to give Biondo a ride in the comp car. I mean my opinion is if you have enough income to do this at that level then let those people do it. Why bitch because someone can afford to do it this way, I cant afford to run a Challenger or Mustang but I dont have a problem for anyone who has WORKED THEIR *** OFF TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY to be able to buy one. I dont like alot of things in this world but if someone wants to spend 100K to run a stocker then thats their business.

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Old 01-15-2011, 09:38 PM   #49
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Personally, I take pride in not only being able to drive my car, but being able to work on it as well. There's just something special about knowing every nut and bolt in your car and being able to point to it and say "Yeah, I did the work and drive it too!"
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