D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes

X-TECH MAN · 01-16-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Daran Summerton

Ed I don't know, what I do know is Sunshine runs a once a month Heads up race. Usually 20,000 spectators and they had to clear more land for parking. As mentioned it is fun and AFFORDABLE. It's a shame but I don't give Stock Eliminator another 10 years, NHRA clearly is not going to adjust purses from 1980's payout lists. You cannot break even going 5 rounds anymore.

Maybe less than 10 years. Stock, S/S, and the .90 classed cars do NOT have a corner on the market to act as filler for the Pro car show. Less over head for the racing association and racers. It seems this stuff brings in more spectators.

chris3racing · 01-17-2011, 12:40 AM

Back, because some racers called me and told me I should go read this post. My post about Unleashed and the NHRA got me so much criticisum and even had my post moved to another section of the board. Well I knew it was coming, just didn't really think it would be this quick. This news may be why NHRA is holding the release of their Unleashed schedule.
Heads-up 10.00, 11.00 or 12.00 second racing is not bracket racing all 5, 10, 20 or maybe 60 cars in a 11.00 class will all be heads-up to the finish line with no putting on breaks. And there is a brake-out go faster than your class index and your out.

To the comment about being glad it is not in other divisions, just wait until the first event and the spectators and racers show up. The tracks will get on the wagon.

What a suprise, yes NHRA and IHRA "legal" stock and superstock "class" cars are running NHRA Unleashed, Pass Time and were alway running at the Pinks All Out races.

Boy will it be something if the stands are packed "with stupid spectators" when they call the "Unleashed" cars to the starting line. Would not be a big suprise to the folks who have run this type of race with Pinks All Out in front of 30,000 to 40,000 "stupid spectators" for the last 3 years all over the country. Did everyone really not think that NHRA and the track Owners were not taking notes when an NHRA national event completed with a lot of empty seats and "Pinks All Out" shows up a couple of weeks later and there is standing room only for two day. Need a reference, contact Z-Max Dragway Management and talk to them.

Oh, I know some on here have been been cheering that "Pinks All Out" is dead and gone. Little secret, it will be back "with the grass roots" format that drew so many cars and the crowds of spectators.

W'll see you at the division races and from what I have heard since this hit the board there will be a lot of cars that will be running in the 10.00, 11.00 and 12.00 classes. I will guess that there will be more cars for the "ally"in these classes than most of the other classes in the event.

Ed Wright · 01-17-2011, 10:06 AM

You smoking that crap again?

danny waters sr · 01-17-2011, 10:09 AM

Well ,i'm ready if it comes to that . I got a 12 flat motor and a 13 flat motor. Man ,just think ,i won't have to weigh or fuel check.... This will be my plan B.......

jmcarter · 01-17-2011, 10:16 AM

Apparently their entry will be $100 to run for $1000/400 so S/ST will pay extra entry to run for less $ and we will pay extra for identical purse ( don't know what kind of contingency program they will have). Everyone has to decide for themselves but sounds like S/ST is getting kicked to the curb and others will follow.

Out with the good motor, in with the bracket motor but geez I hate the dumbing down of class racing, so much for performance based racing.

X-TECH MAN · 01-17-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by danny waters sr

Well ,i'm ready if it comes to that . I got a 12 flat motor and a 13 flat motor. Man ,just think ,i won't have to weigh or fuel check.... This will be my plan B.......

Id rather have a 32 or 34 Ford street rod to play with than this. Dont need a big azzed truck, motor home, and trailer to have some fun.

Matt Welker · 01-17-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by chris3racing

And there is a brake-out go faster than your class index and your out.

If both cars break-out, do they both lose? This is just bracket racing with a forced dial, like the super classes. Think about it, if you "go faster than your class index", you will be faster on the score board and lose. The cars left at the same time, whoopee. Do fans really care about that so much it will save racing? This is not heads up racing. There would be more dumping in these classes than during class eliminations!

Rollins_2241 · 01-17-2011, 12:10 PM

Correct, it is "just like the Super classes"...except for all the timers.

Wrong, it really is heads-up racing. With a breakout, like every other Sportsman class.

Correct, there will be lots of dumping - there was at Unleashed. Just like the Super classes.

What's not to like, except the fact that many of your 632s to run 8.90 and 9.90 would be obsolete in these classes? If you don't like them, don't run them, don't even watch them, start the grill a bit early.

Chad Rhodes · 01-17-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollins_2241

Correct, it is "just like the Super classes"...except for all the timers.

Wrong, it really is heads-up racing. With a breakout, like every other Sportsman class.

Correct, there will be lots of dumping - there was at Unleashed. Just like the Super classes.

What's not to like, except the fact that many of your 632s to run 8.90 and 9.90 would be obsolete in these classes? If you don't like them, don't run them, don't even watch them, start the grill a bit early.

wrong. Heads up runs in stock and ss do not have a break out, heads up classes such as outlaw drag radial, outlaw 10.5 etc are heads up, they do not have a break out. All this is is what the super classes were before electronics.

borninamopar · 01-21-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

wrong. Heads up runs in stock and ss do not have a break out, heads up classes such as outlaw drag radial, outlaw 10.5 etc are heads up, they do not have a break out. All this is is what the super classes were before electronics.

That's correct: 10.5 has no break-out, nor do any of the other "outlaw classes. First one through the traps wins. Gotta love it. And yes, there were alot more cars and alot more spectators in the stands. And I have seen the stands clear out when the .90 racers come up at Division Races, I mean that does look like some pretty lame racin'.

01-17-2011, 12:40 AM	#2
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes Back, because some racers called me and told me I should go read this post. My post about Unleashed and the NHRA got me so much criticisum and even had my post moved to another section of the board. Well I knew it was coming, just didn't really think it would be this quick. This news may be why NHRA is holding the release of their Unleashed schedule. Heads-up 10.00, 11.00 or 12.00 second racing is not bracket racing all 5, 10, 20 or maybe 60 cars in a 11.00 class will all be heads-up to the finish line with no putting on breaks. And there is a brake-out go faster than your class index and your out. To the comment about being glad it is not in other divisions, just wait until the first event and the spectators and racers show up. The tracks will get on the wagon. What a suprise, yes NHRA and IHRA "legal" stock and superstock "class" cars are running NHRA Unleashed, Pass Time and were alway running at the Pinks All Out races. Boy will it be something if the stands are packed "with stupid spectators" when they call the "Unleashed" cars to the starting line. Would not be a big suprise to the folks who have run this type of race with Pinks All Out in front of 30,000 to 40,000 "stupid spectators" for the last 3 years all over the country. Did everyone really not think that NHRA and the track Owners were not taking notes when an NHRA national event completed with a lot of empty seats and "Pinks All Out" shows up a couple of weeks later and there is standing room only for two day. Need a reference, contact Z-Max Dragway Management and talk to them. Oh, I know some on here have been been cheering that "Pinks All Out" is dead and gone. Little secret, it will be back "with the grass roots" format that drew so many cars and the crowds of spectators. W'll see you at the division races and from what I have heard since this hit the board there will be a lot of cars that will be running in the 10.00, 11.00 and 12.00 classes. I will guess that there will be more cars for the "ally"in these classes than most of the other classes in the event.

01-17-2011, 10:06 AM	#3
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes You smoking that crap again? __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

01-17-2011, 10:09 AM	#4
danny waters sr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: lagrange,nc Posts: 2,224 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes Well ,i'm ready if it comes to that . I got a 12 flat motor and a 13 flat motor. Man ,just think ,i won't have to weigh or fuel check.... This will be my plan B....... __________________ Danny Waters, Sr / 73 Duster "340"

01-17-2011, 10:16 AM	#5
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,302 Likes: 2,399 Liked 3,204 Times in 977 Posts	Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes Apparently their entry will be $100 to run for $1000/400 so S/ST will pay extra entry to run for less $ and we will pay extra for identical purse ( don't know what kind of contingency program they will have). Everyone has to decide for themselves but sounds like S/ST is getting kicked to the curb and others will follow. Out with the good motor, in with the bracket motor but geez I hate the dumbing down of class racing, so much for performance based racing. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

01-17-2011, 12:10 PM	#8
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes Correct, it is "just like the Super classes"...except for all the timers. Wrong, it really is heads-up racing. With a breakout, like every other Sportsman class. Correct, there will be lots of dumping - there was at Unleashed. Just like the Super classes. What's not to like, except the fact that many of your 632s to run 8.90 and 9.90 would be obsolete in these classes? If you don't like them, don't run them, don't even watch them, start the grill a bit early.