D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by jmcarter

That's a fair question but Atlanta was an exception. Lots of racers don't like Atlanta or at least how the fall D2 race there is sandwiched between so many other events, at that point in the year people are getting tired of all the back to back weekends. Consequently, car counts were low, the weather cooperated, and things went smoothly. Let's see how they manage running 13 classes when a little scheduling adversity is thrown into the mix. Bradenton will be the first test, we shall see but I've been convinced to try it in hopes the tracks can make some money, which is hard to do with the Alky cars. If the tracks can't make money none of us will be racing.

NHRA should run the alky cars at National events only like the Pro cars. I doubt anyone watches those things much at the points races anyway until one crashes or blows up. .

[sugar1366]

Let me get this straight. An index class with NO throttle stops or timers??

Hmmmm.........

Eddie Bolton

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by sugar1366

Let me get this straight. An index class with NO throttle stops or timers??

Hmmmm.........

Eddie Bolton

Yes Eddie.....NHRA has an 8.50, 9.50, 10.0, 11.0, 12.0,and a 13.0 and only allow a 2 step and trans brake like S/S. AND NO DELAY BOX ! Door cars with a roof and NO "engines on a stick" (Dragsters). The other 3 faster classes are old NMCA classes like Outlaw 10,5 tire, etc, and flat out meaning lots of $$$$$$. Look up the Unleashed site on the NHRA web site. They have their own series of races and now it looks like Div. 2 will run some of the classes. They have several videos from Gainsville, Colunbus, Atlanta, etc. on there to view. I know you could win a few of those.
Terry Bell

[Ron Ortiz]

Jim Fitzpatrick, there is a fine line between fishing and just sitting in a boat.

X-Tech Man, alot of the spectators really like the alky cars and come to the races to see them, they really do draw fans. Heck, I enjoy watching them myself. I do not like the idea of them not paying though and delaying the show due to malfunctions. Besides there are not that many that show for a divisional down here in FL.

Tracks need to make money, period, bottom line. For some tracks the improvements out weigh return, or that the local run what you brung brings in more revenue for less investment. One track around here offers entertainment in the form of bands and a bar, drifting, and long burnouts to draw good crowds. If "you" owned a track you would look at bottom lines and decide how to increase revenue and what to cut back on.

It is better to try the Unleached classes at a divisional rather than a national. Maybe it will work or maybe it will run the same course as did other "great" ideas from our sanctioning body. At least we do not have snow down here for the snowmobiles, that would tighten up things.

This year I am running IHRA and NHRA, I will voice my opinions on here in the future of my experiences, sort of a "On the Run" column, but with more flair for the side shows one sees at the races. Am I going to have fun............. Oh Yeah.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA Ortiz Unleached
Ron Ortiz
U/SA

[stude]

Not sure I'd want to run this series, but if I did , and as I read NOS is legal, how can you run juice without a timer? And....in my case it's integral with my dely box.

Drake

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by stude

Not sure I'd want to run this series, but if I did , and as I read NOS is legal, how can you run juice without a timer? And....in my case it's integral with my dely box.

Drake

Put in a switch and use your finger like the other people who want to use Nitrous. No delay box either.
Gezzzz, cant anyone drive a race car without a timer, delay box, or throttle stop these days?

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by sugar1366

Let me get this straight. An index class with NO throttle stops or timers??

MB, thinkin' Sugar don't need no steenking throttle stop...

I won a 7.0 deal with the stocker once. It was a blast! PTRA runs 5.30, 6.0 & 7.0 classes. At least at the time, there wasn't any sandbagging going on, so it was really quite fun to watch, too.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Is there really a time issue in Div. 2? I'm pretty sure that last year Chip told me he got SIX time shots at Atlanta. I was like, "What are you guys DOING down there?! National Time Trial Association?"

The car count at Atlanta was horrible, and the race was run "between directors", so it wandered about aimlessly. They moved the race this year, so that it was not the 3rd race in a series of 4 races, two LODRS races and two National Events. Had we gone to Indy, we'd probably have skipped Atlanta and gone to Charlotte a week later.

The Atlanta race was simply an anomaly, brought on by its place on the schedule, and the frustration of races sick of the poor track prep and other problems found there on a regular basis.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Because the average fan (not all) is stupid and only wants to see cars running heads up to the finish line without a handicap start and without a throttle stop and 1000 FT shut off runs.

Terry, I've always had a problem with this line of thinking by the fans, if it is in fact, true.
In other words, they CAN understand ;
Two cars are dialed 12.0, one is late leaving and runs 11.80 for the loss ,even though he gets there first,...
But, if one is dialed 14.0 with a head start and he runs 13.90 , breaks out and loses, they CAN"T understand that?

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by Travis Miller

I worked the Indy and Columbus Unleashed races. Cars WERE checked for electronics and throttle stops.. There were several cars that we made remove their electronic throttle stops in tech.

At Indy the starting line crew called us several times to check certain cars suspected of using throttle stops...none were found on those cars. BTW, we did DQ a car during eliminations for having a timer on his nitrous system. We also DQ'd a car for running faster than his safety equipment allowed. Several others were warned but they were able to slow down and run within their limits.

Here are the basic rules for the Unleashed Index classes:

ELECTRONICS RULES FOR HEADS-UP INDEX CLASSES
· Delay boxes and/or timed throttle stops prohibited
· Mechanical type throttle stops permitted. Any adjustment during run prohibited
· Timers of any kind associated with, but not limited to, fuel and/or nitrous delivery, throttle control, vehicle performance criteria, etc. are strictly prohibited
· Transmission brakes permitted
· Two-steps permitted

Info can be found on the NHRA website under Unleashed.

Travis Miller

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

In other words....just your regular bracket car!

JimR