Rules

[Michael Beard]

When and where did you tear down and set the first record, and when and where did you have a problem setting another record with your sealed motor in the same season?

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

When and where did you tear down and set the first record, and when and where did you have a problem setting another record with your sealed motor in the same season?

Was gonna ask the same thing myself Michael.......".Hmmmmmmmmmm"

[Mike Schwartz]

I'd like to see eliminations ladders set up so that all scheduled bye runs take place in the first round.

Currently, a driver can win a quarterfinal race in certain-sized fields and go straight to the final. A semi-final win can be worth thousands of dollars in purse money and contingencies, plus bonus points, and a free time trial or a parts saving easy pass. Why not make a driver work to advance instead? It also cheats spectators to see late-round bye runs instead of meaningful races.

Low qualifiers are actually being penalized now, because their 'free pass' in an odd-sized field only gets them to the second round, which usually doesn't earn them anything but points. The drivers down the ladder are the ones benefiting from the more meaningful byes as the race progresses.

[Michael Beard]

What do you do with a 65-car field?

[Ed Wright]

All bye runs can't be in the first round. What do you do with an odd number of round winners?

[Ed Fernandez]

Shoot them?

[Toby Lang]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

What do you do with a 65-car field?

Well, that's obvious. You give the top 63 qualifiers a bye and the bottom 2 qualifiers have to race. Then you have a nice even 64 cars left for round two.


-Toby

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

Well, that's obvious. You give the top 63 qualifiers a bye and the bottom 2 qualifiers have to race. Then you have a nice even 64 cars left for round two.


-Toby

Hey Toby,very good.Youse must be an college graduiat.

[Mike Schwartz]

What do you do with a 65-car field? - Michael Beard

All bye runs can't be in the first round. What do you do with an odd number of round winners? - Ed Wright

Well, that's obvious. You give the top 63 qualifiers a bye and the bottom 2 qualifiers have to race. Then you have a nice even 64 cars left for round two. - Toby Lang

Toby has the solution for Mike's case of 65 cars. My basic idea is to resolve the ladder in a way that there are no bye-runs after the first round. In some fields that means several singles in the first round, while most cars race; in others like 65, there will be, in effect 63 byes in the first round and one actual pairing.

You have to remember that in order to eliminate a 65 car field you are in effect going to need a 128 car ladder with 63 empty slots in it. Current practice is to manipulate the ladder into multiple "full pods" and "empty pods" to compensate for the scheduled odd car byes. If you look at the ladders at NHRA.com, you'll see that many ladders set up this way are 1/4 empty space. My plan takes all the mid-race empty pairings and competition byes and moves them to the first round.

Current format:
65>33>17>09>5>3>2
- - - Six rounds of eliminations to reach final. Seven wins needed for title.
- - - 9.2% (6/65) of starters have shot at title with only six wins needed

Proposed format:
65>64>32>16>8>4>2
- - - Six rounds of eliminations to reach final. Seven wins needed for title.
- - - 96.9% (63/65) of starters have shot at title with only six wins needed.

[Chris Barnes]

I agree with Toby about the cylinder heads. The way the rules are interpreted now is expensive bullsh*t.

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621