NHRA reinstates Sportsman oil down penalties

Michael Beard · 01-20-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SStockDart

I would support an "oil down penalty" for someone oiling the track "unnecessarily" based on an officials' decision that the driver "should have known" and pulled to the side, thus minimizing the oil down.

Gotta be careful with that stuff, too... I lunched a motor many year ago, in high gear. When you're already going 80+ mph, and there's potentially oil coming out of the motor and maybe getting under your tires, the last thing you want to do is jam on the brakes. I certainly moved out of the groove and slowed down as quickly as I felt I could do safely... and you'd be surprised at how far you travel before you get stopped.

Really what they're saying is, "You didn't want us to mandate diapers, so we'll find a way to make you WANT to put a diaper on the car."

Chad Rhodes · 01-20-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Gotta be careful with that stuff, too... I lunched a motor many year ago, in high gear. When you're already going 80+ mph, and there's potentially oil coming out of the motor and maybe getting under your tires, the last thing you want to do is jam on the brakes. I certainly moved out of the groove and slowed down as quickly as I felt I could do safely... and you'd be surprised at how far you travel before you get stopped.

Really what they're saying is, "You didn't want us to mandate diapers, so we'll find a way to make you WANT to put a diaper on the car."

good point

Bryan Worner · 01-20-2011, 04:04 PM

Dave, what we should do is go to the competition committee with this proposal:

If a race is shortened due to problems with the facility and runs are taken away from the sportsman classes, those classes should be given some of their entry fee back if they don't get a minimum of at least 2 qualifying/time runs! Also, if class eliminations are scheduled and are not run off, money should be refunded!

I would say $100 of the $300, or 1/3 of the entry fee, should be refunded in this event! That sounds fair to me! If their complaint is having to pay extra for people to clean up the mess of an oil down, and it delays the racing or costs racers their run, it's only fair if we have our track time taken away by problems that occur because the facility is not properly constructed, that we get some of our money back!!!

Heck, they would still be getting $200 out of us!!! More than Force pays!!

63corvette · 01-20-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

Dave, what we should do is go to the competition committee with this proposal:

If a race is shortened due to problems with the facility and runs are taken away from the sportsman classes, those classes should be given some of their entry fee back if they don't get a minimum of at least 2 qualifying/time runs! Also, if class eliminations are scheduled and are not run off, money should be refunded!

I would say $100 of the $300, or 1/3 of the entry fee, should be refunded in this event! That sounds fair to me! If their complaint is having to pay extra for people to clean up the mess of an oil down, and it delays the racing or costs racers their run, it's only fair if we have our track time taken away by problems that occur because the facility is not properly constructed, that we get some of our money back!!!

Heck, they would still be getting $200 out of us!!! More than Force pays!!

Does SC, SG, or SST get class eliminations at any of the Nationals?
Just asking what is FAIR about that?
My 2 Cents
Rick Cates

Ed Fernandez · 01-20-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 63corvette

Does SC, SG, or SST get class eliminations at any of the Nationals?
Just asking what is FAIR about that?
My 2 Cents
Rick Cates

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Care to explain the structure for CLASS eliminations for the super catogories?

63corvette · 01-20-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

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Care to explain the structure for CLASS eliminations for the super catogories?

Ed, my point was why should Stock and Super Stock even get a class eliminations race at a National Event when they get the same Eliminator Race that all the other classes get anyway for the same entry price. The quote I posted in the question was how can it be fair to get part of the entry fee back for not getting class eliminations if they were not run. Please read all the quote and you can see what my question was really about.
Stock and Super Stock get two races for one entry and contingency awards for class and all the other things for that same entry fee.
Should all the other classes get two shots at the eliminator race?
What is FAIR about that to the other categories?
Just Asking?
Rick Cates

Harry 6674 · 01-20-2011, 05:09 PM

Rick you must not be a class racer. It's clear you know nothing about it. Must be a box boy.

Ed Fernandez · 01-20-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 63corvette

Ed, my point was why should Stock and Super Stock even get a class eliminations race at a National Event when they get the same Eliminator Race that all the other classes get anyway for the same entry price. The quote I posted in the question was how can it be fair to get part of the entry fee back for not getting class eliminations if they were not run. Please read all the quote and you can see what my question was really about.
Stock and Super Stock get two races for one entry and contingency awards for class and all the other things for that same entry fee.
Should all the other classes get two shots at the eliminator race?
What is FAIR about that to the other categories?
Just Asking?
Rick Cates

It's just a matter of the way the classes are structured.Take it a little further.We S/SS are lucky if we get 2 time shots (usually all in the same day).The pros usually get 4,spread out over two days.You can argue different scenarios into the night.Any system that is used will always find detractors.
Yo (super classes) and I (S/SS) are at the bottom of the totem pole.
I'll be happy if they remove us from nationals and give us two sports nats in each division.They wouldn't lose any entry fee $$$ either
because our entry fees would go into their pockets anyways.And hopefully we would have a less hassled race.

01-20-2011, 04:04 PM	#3
Bryan Worner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 825 Likes: 138 Liked 535 Times in 86 Posts	Re: NHRA reinstates Sportsman oil down penalties Dave, what we should do is go to the competition committee with this proposal: If a race is shortened due to problems with the facility and runs are taken away from the sportsman classes, those classes should be given some of their entry fee back if they don't get a minimum of at least 2 qualifying/time runs! Also, if class eliminations are scheduled and are not run off, money should be refunded! I would say $100 of the $300, or 1/3 of the entry fee, should be refunded in this event! That sounds fair to me! If their complaint is having to pay extra for people to clean up the mess of an oil down, and it delays the racing or costs racers their run, it's only fair if we have our track time taken away by problems that occur because the facility is not properly constructed, that we get some of our money back!!! Heck, they would still be getting $200 out of us!!! More than Force pays!!

01-20-2011, 05:09 PM	#7
Harry 6674 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 589 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NHRA reinstates Sportsman oil down penalties Rick you must not be a class racer. It's clear you know nothing about it. Must be a box boy.