Red light survey - Page 3

Ed Wright · 02-27-2011, 10:59 AM

One more thing for the few spectators we have to not "get", right? Most casual observers think dialing, handicap starts and running too fast are dumb enough, they would love that one.
If you built a car without knowing the rules first, you should just accept the rules, you screwed up. Much like going red. If you expect everybody to agree to get a rule you and a few others don't like changed to suit you once you start racing, ....
Well, you know.

This horse died long ago. You can stop beating it now. You lost.

What class do you run?

The Hawk · 02-27-2011, 11:12 AM

How about if both drivers go red,they`re both out. Also,if both breakout,they`re both out! Now that would make things interesting for those that seem to hold about .05 in the bank.

Ed Wright · 02-27-2011, 11:59 AM

I have no problem with that at all. It could make for some interesting finals, that's for sure. LMAO

Mike Carr · 02-27-2011, 12:02 PM

I voted for option 3, because, for most of us, there are many more pressing issues that affect S/SS racing more than a first-worst redlight, that *might* come into play, what, 5-7% of the time over a season. Payouts, AHFS, run schedules, costs, track conditions, etc etc etc are a bigger issue that needs addressed before the redlight rule. If the rule were changed however, it wouldn't bother me.

Ed Wright · 02-27-2011, 12:04 PM

I voted for 3 also.

Mark Yacavone · 02-27-2011, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I voted for 3 also.

Ed, Was that before or after you fully understood the proposal?

Just askin'

Chad Rhodes · 02-27-2011, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Carr

I voted for option 3, because, for most of us, there are many more pressing issues that affect S/SS racing more than a first-worst redlight, that *might* come into play, what, 5-7% of the time over a season. Payouts, AHFS, run schedules, costs, track conditions, etc etc etc are a bigger issue that needs addressed before the redlight rule. If the rule were changed however, it wouldn't bother me.

Agreed

Ed Wright · 02-27-2011, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Ed, Was that before or after you fully understood the proposal?

Just askin'

Wouldn't matter. I've heard it proposed different ways. Still don't think there is a problem.
Name me a company owner or CEO that will pay a software guy to re-write the code for a minority of guys that constantly call them corrupt crooks and idiots. Answer? Nobody. The way you guys constantly slam them and call them names, only a fool would expect them to do anything like that, especially when the majority don't want it changed. Gotta wonder what some people are thinking. Get over it.

Ed Fernandez · 02-27-2011, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman

I think the other guy should have to take responsibility for HIS mistakes, too..
as it stands, if you give him a free ride by red lighting first, he never has to take responsibility, like you did. What sense does tht make?

It's not "well enough" at all; it's screw job for the first car to leave.

And there's no justification for it.

And that "poll" is so one-sided, the way it's presented, as to render any results from it worthless.

Here we go again Bill.First off your car still has a BRACKET number on it.Second show me what's biased in the wording on the poll.
The poll is running at 72% for status quo and 28% for change.I guess when it isn't going your way it's one sided.

Signman · 02-27-2011, 02:26 PM

Ed, you make my day!

You want to fix the red light rule with a change in autostart.

If you have made the phone calls and know it's possible then what's the problem?

Went through this with deep staging a few years ago. (note: I have never deep staged, ever) It ain't goin to happen this way. Get the track owners on board (they are Compulink customers) you might have a fighting chance. If you can get enough tracks "across the country" to adopt the idea then NHRA will have to consider it. You still may never see it at a national or divisional until it proven at the bracket racing level.
Ohh, by the way what happened to deep staging. You can but you're on you're own. No holding the tree any more.

View Poll Results: Red light survey
Leave well enough alone	118	40.69%
Worse foul loses	84	28.97%
WTF Let's concentrate on the real problems	88	30.34%
Voters: 290. You may not vote on this poll

02-27-2011, 10:59 AM	#21
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Red light survey One more thing for the few spectators we have to not "get", right? Most casual observers think dialing, handicap starts and running too fast are dumb enough, they would love that one. If you built a car without knowing the rules first, you should just accept the rules, you screwed up. Much like going red. If you expect everybody to agree to get a rule you and a few others don't like changed to suit you once you start racing, .... Well, you know. This horse died long ago. You can stop beating it now. You lost. What class do you run? __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 02-27-2011 at 11:12 AM.

02-27-2011, 11:12 AM	#22
The Hawk VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Littleton,Colorado Posts: 1,194 Likes: 0 Liked 249 Times in 109 Posts	Re: Red light survey How about if both drivers go red,they`re both out. Also,if both breakout,they`re both out! Now that would make things interesting for those that seem to hold about .05 in the bank. __________________ Lane Weber It`s Not What You Drive That Wins....It`s How You Drive It

02-27-2011, 11:59 AM	#23
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Red light survey I have no problem with that at all. It could make for some interesting finals, that's for sure. LMAO __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

02-27-2011, 12:02 PM	#24
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Red light survey I voted for option 3, because, for most of us, there are many more pressing issues that affect S/SS racing more than a first-worst redlight, that might come into play, what, 5-7% of the time over a season. Payouts, AHFS, run schedules, costs, track conditions, etc etc etc are a bigger issue that needs addressed before the redlight rule. If the rule were changed however, it wouldn't bother me. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

02-27-2011, 12:04 PM	#25
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Red light survey I voted for 3 also. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

02-27-2011, 02:26 PM	#30
Signman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 535 Likes: 22 Liked 269 Times in 99 Posts	Re: Red light survey Ed, you make my day! You want to fix the red light rule with a change in autostart. If you have made the phone calls and know it's possible then what's the problem? Went through this with deep staging a few years ago. (note: I have never deep staged, ever) It ain't goin to happen this way. Get the track owners on board (they are Compulink customers) you might have a fighting chance. If you can get enough tracks "across the country" to adopt the idea then NHRA will have to consider it. You still may never see it at a national or divisional until it proven at the bracket racing level. Ohh, by the way what happened to deep staging. You can but you're on you're own. No holding the tree any more. __________________ Frank Ferrucci I/SA 1271 "Be Thankful for the Gifts You are Given"