Redlight Poll (Revised)

GarysZ24 · 03-03-2011, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

And the sound of gunfire.

I love the smell of gunpowder in the morning,smells like, victory........................................

Oh Garyyyy,it's 66% to 33% now.

Guess again oh Edddddd, it's now 64.44% to 35.55%, so your count is getting reeled in...haha. I don't really care how this turns out, but I take great pride in the thoughts of someone who actually thought a Gremlin outsold a Cavalier, now that's LMAO FUNNY!!!

I just checked, and per your stats, and my checks as well it appears that the Chevy Cavalier sold more cars in its first 4yrs of production (over 1.1mil.), than your Gremlin sold in 9yrs...REALLY? You're too close to that John Bonehead (Boehner) dude, you really need a vacation...maybe some warm Az. sun could do you some good, but bring your sunscreen, because one orangeman is enough...lol

Oh, and per the guy who spoke of trying the fast side of handicap racing, I would if I had the bucks...trust me...

Ed Fernandez · 03-03-2011, 11:55 PM

[QUOTE=GarysZ24;243738]Guess again oh Edddddd, it's now 64.44% to 35.55%, so your count is getting reeled in...haha. I don't really care how this turns out, but I take great pride in the thoughts of someone who actually thought a Gremlin outsold a Cavalier, now that's LMAO FUNNY!!!

I just checked, and per your stats, and my checks as well it appears that the Chevy Cavalier sold more cars in its first 4yrs of production (over 1.1mil.), than your Gremlin sold in 9yrs...REALLY? You're too close to that John Bonehead (Boehner) dude, you really need a vacation...maybe some warm Az. sun could do you some good, but bring your sunscreen, because one orangeman is enough...lol

Oh, and per the guy who spoke of trying

Every post you make shows you for the petty,childish numb nuts that you are.You're the
little kid that has to get in the last word.
Your posts are bordering on the point of you being shown to fit into the category of whiny bitch.You worry about others who in a better
position than you.Stop being a victim and learn to live in the reality of where you are in life.

The poll,which you think would change from the original one,still shows about a 65% to 35% split for keeping the system as is.
Besides the only thing you've been racing since you've been on here is your mouth.
Bring your last cute post and let's be over with it.

Sean Kennedy · 03-04-2011, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

You're the little kid that has to get in the last word.

And you are the grouchy old man that lives inside of this site who lives to get his last word in to anyone dares to have a different opinion.

You are the guy people imagine when they picture the cliche old guy yelling 'you damn kids get off my lawn.'

GUMP · 03-04-2011, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean Kennedy

You are the guy people imagine when they picture the cliche old guy yelling 'you damn kids get off my lawn.'

Are you saying that there is something wrong with that?

Bunkster · 03-04-2011, 08:33 AM

The enthusiasm for "first" in the case of the starting line, I presume this would apply to the finish line as well?

Once one vehicle breaks out, the other vehicle ought to be immune?

"The first to foul, and the first to breakout are always the loser." Seems like this would be a consistent application of the notion of "first".

bill dedman · 03-04-2011, 12:24 PM

Excellent logic, Mr. Bunkster. I can't imagine a valid argument against what you have suggested.

Wish I'd said that...

The only instance a "first red light" makes any sense is in a heads-up race. DUH...

Chad Rhodes · 03-04-2011, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bill dedman

Excellent logic, Mr. Bunkster. I can't imagine a valid argument against what you have suggested.

Wish I'd said that...

The only instance a "first read light" makes any sense is in a heads-up race. DUH...

actually there is a logical argument against it. If the first breakout were always the loser there would be less incentive to try and take the stripe in a bracket race. As it stands right now both cars go to the line intending to take a shot at the tree.

johnny shot · 03-05-2011, 11:09 PM

I can tell you the exact valid argument. Prior to dial in racing, stock and superstock ran off National Records. Then a group of complaining racers who were not winning campaigned to allow a new rule called "dial under", to level the playing field and make it fair for everyone.

But that was not fair enough for some. Change the rules again so you THINK you can win.

You want to get rid of the breakout inequity? I agree. Lets change that rule. Change it back to running of the national records with no break out. Problem solved.

I don't have a rule book in front of me, so correct me if I'm wrong, but a red light or lane crossing is grounds for disqualification. Going under the dial is not, it's simply a matter of doing the math.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Excellent logic, Mr. Bunkster. I can't imagine a valid argument against what you have suggested.

Wish I'd said that...

The only instance a "first read light" makes any sense is in a heads-up race. DUH...

Shawn Blair · 03-04-2011, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunkster

The enthusiasm for "first" in the case of the starting line, I presume this would apply to the finish line as well?

Once one vehicle breaks out, the other vehicle ought to be immune?

"The first to foul, and the first to breakout are always the loser." Seems like this would be a consistent application of the notion of "first".

NO!!!.....Lets say you have a better light than your opponent, you beat him to the stripe by a .001 of a second, break out less than your opponent, and you lose the race because you did it first?

Toby Lang · 03-04-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Blair

NO!!!.....Lets say you have a better light than your opponent, you beat him to the stripe by a .001 of a second, break out less than your opponent, and you lose the race because you did it first?

Sure, why not? They shouldn't have ran quicker than their dial. Just like the first person to leave shouldn't have red lighted, right?

I think the red light rule should be the same as the break out rule. Either make them both first loses or both worst loses.

-Toby

View Poll Results: Red light poll (Revised)
First car to foul loses	145	64.16%
Worse foul loses	81	35.84%
Voters: 226. You may not vote on this poll

03-03-2011, 11:55 PM	#2
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Redlight Poll (Revised) [QUOTE=GarysZ24;243738]Guess again oh Edddddd, it's now 64.44% to 35.55%, so your count is getting reeled in...haha. I don't really care how this turns out, but I take great pride in the thoughts of someone who actually thought a Gremlin outsold a Cavalier, now that's LMAO FUNNY!!! I just checked, and per your stats, and my checks as well it appears that the Chevy Cavalier sold more cars in its first 4yrs of production (over 1.1mil.), than your Gremlin sold in 9yrs...REALLY? You're too close to that John Bonehead (Boehner) dude, you really need a vacation...maybe some warm Az. sun could do you some good, but bring your sunscreen, because one orangeman is enough...lol Oh, and per the guy who spoke of trying Every post you make shows you for the petty,childish numb nuts that you are.You're the little kid that has to get in the last word. Your posts are bordering on the point of you being shown to fit into the category of whiny bitch.You worry about others who in a better position than you.Stop being a victim and learn to live in the reality of where you are in life. The poll,which you think would change from the original one,still shows about a 65% to 35% split for keeping the system as is. Besides the only thing you've been racing since you've been on here is your mouth. Bring your last cute post and let's be over with it. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA Last edited by Ed Fernandez; 03-04-2011 at 12:45 AM.

03-04-2011, 08:33 AM	#5
Bunkster Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 307 Likes: 0 Liked 43 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Redlight Poll (Revised) The enthusiasm for "first" in the case of the starting line, I presume this would apply to the finish line as well? Once one vehicle breaks out, the other vehicle ought to be immune? "The first to foul, and the first to breakout are always the loser." Seems like this would be a consistent application of the notion of "first".

03-04-2011, 12:24 PM	#6
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Redlight Poll (Revised) Excellent logic, Mr. Bunkster. I can't imagine a valid argument against what you have suggested. Wish I'd said that... The only instance a "first red light" makes any sense is in a heads-up race. DUH... __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 03-06-2011 at 02:44 AM.