Another low car count? - Page 6

art leong · 03-17-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Bernay

Art, can't racers enter/pay at gate for Sportsnational events?

I was talking about Vegas, Usually a heavy contested race for stk and ss.
Not the sportsnats at them you can pay at the gate.

dartman · 03-17-2011, 04:01 PM

now let's say you take a super stock car that runs 8.90 with a legal motor,and compare the price of a motor (any size you want) in the same car too make it run 8.90 with no rules,would it be cheaper and easier to make it run 8.90 ? i think it would be.

X-TECH MAN · 03-17-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dartman

now let's say you take a super stock car that runs 8.90 with a legal motor,and compare the price of a motor (any size you want) in the same car too make it run 8.90 with no rules,would it be cheaper and easier to make it run 8.90 ? i think you would be.

Yep and it would last a lot longer to.

Chris Barnes · 03-17-2011, 05:02 PM

I raced a couple of National Open events in Super Street with my old bracket wagon and discovered that it was a very competitive class, the racers were great people, and that it was a great way to get into NHRA Sportsman racing. It just isn't my cup of tea.

I don't know why I am so attracted to Stock Eliminator. The money is just brutal in the first place and I keep picking combinations that belong in a museum and building them in house. I've had to take a few "vacations" over the years due to kids, breakage, etc. I still keep coming back. Going a second under (the old index) was a huge accomplishment for us in our home built '64 Plymouth but of course totally un explainable to anyone except, well, you guys!

I might not always come back. A great S/SS car is a motor away from being a great bracket car. I could put my Max Wedge under a blanket in the corner of the garage and go racing with a pump gas 440 for a couple of hundred bucks a weekend.

See you in Boise!

Chris Barnes
Wagons of Steel
Stock 6621

davidhuff · 03-17-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

Jim,
My first year in Stock very few racers were willing to help/share advise.
My second year of stock more came around. Later they were asking me for advise.LOL
There were still some very secretive racers out there in S/SS.
Chip Johnson

I agree 100% and I have had stock racers close the hood in my face when I was just trying to take a look and have fun.Most stock racers are Super!

danny waters sr · 03-17-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by davidhuff

I agree 100% and I have had stock racers close the hood in my face when I was just trying to take a look and have fun.Most stock racers are Super!

They thought you was undercover tech.....lol

treekiller · 03-18-2011, 10:54 AM

Drag racing especially st/sst is no different from the rest of the world. It takes money to make money. When you have a guy like Dan Fletcher quit running a class altogether because guys are coming in w/100,000 drag pak challengers and mustangs its a sign that the apocalypse is upon us. You wanna improve car counts? Eliminate heads up class racing at nat events and pts races. Why you say? Because it would make it fair for everyone not just the dickjockeys w/the big wallets and factory backed cars [no offense to those guys]. I know slate cummings and i know that he would not say anything about it because hes a classy sumbitch but that man criscrossed the country and kicked *** all year long and lost the world championship because of a heads up race. To me thats appalling. It may sound like sour grapes coming from a low buck racer but if you think car counts are low now wait till guys like me stop coming. In my humble opinion everything that goes down a drag strip should have a dial-in on it. Top fuel funny car pro stock maybe not. Personally I think that would be entertaining to watch because Bob Bode winning last year was a fluke. The Lagana boys the greek the 10 -16 qualified guys virtually never win. Every other class dial-ins every run down the track. Then the guy w/the a/sa 69 camaro that can outdrive the **** out of the guy in the new mustang or challenger but can only run a 10.20 still has a chance. Then car counts go through the roof. By the way its a crime that superstreet is not run at indy.Peace

Chuck Beach · 03-18-2011, 11:03 AM

treekiller, that is why we have SST, SG and SC, they are all heads up and costs half as much to race as compared to a stock or SS car. You race and build what you can afford ... my friend built a 428 powered pontiac dragster that runs 8.70's, he has about $20,000 in it and wins just as much as a $70,000 pro built dragster .. and by the way Dan Fletcher did not quit racing stock and super stock, his kid(s) are driving them. He changed class in stock to get away from the fast new cars. He does what he can afford and what makes the most sense.

Harry 6674 · 03-18-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by treekiller

Drag racing especially st/sst is no different from the rest of the world. It takes money to make money. When you have a guy like Dan Fletcher quit running a class altogether because guys are coming in w/100,000 drag pak challengers and mustangs its a sign that the apocalypse is upon us. You wanna improve car counts? Eliminate heads up class racing at nat events and pts races. Why you say? Because it would make it fair for everyone not just the dickjockeys w/the big wallets and factory backed cars [no offense to those guys]. I know slate cummings and i know that he would not say anything about it because hes a classy sumbitch but that man criscrossed the country and kicked *** all year long and lost the world championship because of a heads up race. To me thats appalling. It may sound like sour grapes coming from a low buck racer but if you think car counts are low now wait till guys like me stop coming. In my humble opinion everything that goes down a drag strip should have a dial-in on it. Top fuel funny car pro stock maybe not. Personally I think that would be entertaining to watch because Bob Bode winning last year was a fluke. The Lagana boys the greek the 10 -16 qualified guys virtually never win. Every other class dial-ins every run down the track. Then the guy w/the a/sa 69 camaro that can outdrive the **** out of the guy in the new mustang or challenger but can only run a 10.20 still has a chance. Then car counts go through the roof. By the way its a crime that superstreet is not run at indy.Peace

Spoken like a true bracket racer. Thats why your style of racing was started. It's for people who for one reason or another are not willing to invest either the time and or the money to build a car fast enough to be competitive in a heads up race. It's not for every one but we certainly don,t need it watered down anymore than it is. Theres already to many classes and not enough heads up racing now. to many places to hide from the fast guys.

X-TECH MAN · 03-18-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by treekiller

Drag racing especially st/sst is no different from the rest of the world. It takes money to make money. When you have a guy like Dan Fletcher quit running a class altogether because guys are coming in w/100,000 drag pak challengers and mustangs its a sign that the apocalypse is upon us. You wanna improve car counts? Eliminate heads up class racing at nat events and pts races. Why you say? Because it would make it fair for everyone not just the dickjockeys w/the big wallets and factory backed cars [no offense to those guys]. I know slate cummings and i know that he would not say anything about it because hes a classy sumbitch but that man criscrossed the country and kicked *** all year long and lost the world championship because of a heads up race. To me thats appalling. It may sound like sour grapes coming from a low buck racer but if you think car counts are low now wait till guys like me stop coming. In my humble opinion everything that goes down a drag strip should have a dial-in on it. Top fuel funny car pro stock maybe not. Personally I think that would be entertaining to watch because Bob Bode winning last year was a fluke. The Lagana boys the greek the 10 -16 qualified guys virtually never win. Every other class dial-ins every run down the track. Then the guy w/the a/sa 69 camaro that can outdrive the **** out of the guy in the new mustang or challenger but can only run a 10.20 still has a chance. Then car counts go through the roof. By the way its a crime that superstreet is not run at indy.Peace

DRUGS......yep thats it....Drugs made him post this ! LOL

03-17-2011, 04:01 PM	#52
dartman Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: N.S. CANADA Posts: 498 Likes: 160 Liked 68 Times in 41 Posts	Re: Another low car count? now let's say you take a super stock car that runs 8.90 with a legal motor,and compare the price of a motor (any size you want) in the same car too make it run 8.90 with no rules,would it be cheaper and easier to make it run 8.90 ? i think it would be. __________________ 1231 FS/D Drag Pak 1231 E/SA 71 Demon Kelly MacKay Last edited by dartman; 03-17-2011 at 04:30 PM.

03-17-2011, 05:02 PM	#54
Chris Barnes Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 139 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Another low car count? I raced a couple of National Open events in Super Street with my old bracket wagon and discovered that it was a very competitive class, the racers were great people, and that it was a great way to get into NHRA Sportsman racing. It just isn't my cup of tea. I don't know why I am so attracted to Stock Eliminator. The money is just brutal in the first place and I keep picking combinations that belong in a museum and building them in house. I've had to take a few "vacations" over the years due to kids, breakage, etc. I still keep coming back. Going a second under (the old index) was a huge accomplishment for us in our home built '64 Plymouth but of course totally un explainable to anyone except, well, you guys! I might not always come back. A great S/SS car is a motor away from being a great bracket car. I could put my Max Wedge under a blanket in the corner of the garage and go racing with a pump gas 440 for a couple of hundred bucks a weekend. See you in Boise! Chris Barnes Wagons of Steel Stock 6621

03-18-2011, 10:54 AM	#57
treekiller Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 124 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Another low car count? Drag racing especially st/sst is no different from the rest of the world. It takes money to make money. When you have a guy like Dan Fletcher quit running a class altogether because guys are coming in w/100,000 drag pak challengers and mustangs its a sign that the apocalypse is upon us. You wanna improve car counts? Eliminate heads up class racing at nat events and pts races. Why you say? Because it would make it fair for everyone not just the dickjockeys w/the big wallets and factory backed cars [no offense to those guys]. I know slate cummings and i know that he would not say anything about it because hes a classy sumbitch but that man criscrossed the country and kicked * all year long and lost the world championship because of a heads up race. To me thats appalling. It may sound like sour grapes coming from a low buck racer but if you think car counts are low now wait till guys like me stop coming. In my humble opinion everything that goes down a drag strip should have a dial-in on it. Top fuel funny car pro stock maybe not. Personally I think that would be entertaining to watch because Bob Bode winning last year was a fluke. The Lagana boys the greek the 10 -16 qualified guys virtually never win. Every other class dial-ins every run down the track. Then the guy w/the a/sa 69 camaro that can outdrive the ** out of the guy in the new mustang or challenger but can only run a 10.20 still has a chance. Then car counts go through the roof. By the way its a crime that superstreet is not run at indy.Peace

03-18-2011, 11:03 AM	#58
Chuck Beach Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Delaware, Ohio Posts: 664 Likes: 12 Liked 58 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Another low car count? treekiller, that is why we have SST, SG and SC, they are all heads up and costs half as much to race as compared to a stock or SS car. You race and build what you can afford ... my friend built a 428 powered pontiac dragster that runs 8.70's, he has about $20,000 in it and wins just as much as a $70,000 pro built dragster .. and by the way Dan Fletcher did not quit racing stock and super stock, his kid(s) are driving them. He changed class in stock to get away from the fast new cars. He does what he can afford and what makes the most sense. __________________ Chuck Beach 3340 STK Last edited by Chuck Beach; 03-18-2011 at 11:33 AM.