worst red light debate, again!

[Ed Fernandez]

Now that Bill's gone we can all admit now that we all agreed with him and that rule was the worst enhancement ever perpetrated on the drag racing community,surpassing the rule to stop the dreaded practice of ,dare I say it,deep staging.
Please line up to the right to pick up your bidding pallet for the upcoming auction of the Brooklyn Bridge.

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Besides not even requiring an NHRA or IHRA membership on this board, a real name is not required. Neither is there an age requirement.
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There is another section on this Forum that REQUIRES the person have a Permanent Number and be racing. So why are you trying to make policy for this section ??

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by John Kelley

There is another section on this Forum that REQUIRES the person have a Permanent Number and be racing. So why are you trying to make policy for this section ??

Because it lends a bit more credibility to a subject if the person uses his real name and
also if he is actually affected by any potential rule changes discussed here.And there is no direct connection between this rule being implimented in S/SS class racing and regular bracket racing.
Anywhere else if an outsider (and Mr Bill for all intents and purposes,in addition to you yourself,are outsiders to S/SS class racing)harped on about a subject they had no stake in would be ignored.You two seem to have a small audience here because a minority of racers see this as another way to supposedly
"level the playing field".That term was used back a few years ago during the first
discussion about the AHFS.Well it didn't go anywhere then and it won't go anywhere now.
"Get a life" is the appropriate saying to end this discussion.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by John Kelley

There is another section on this Forum that REQUIRES the person have a Permanent Number and be racing. So why are you trying to make policy for this section ??

The only one trying to make policy is Bill.He's been told 100 different ways the rule,even
if some don't think it's fair,will stand as is.But will Bill put a lid on it?????Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooo.........
There has to be a name for an affliction like that,but I'm too polite to put a name to it.

[Toby Lang]

I'm not sure who's more obsessed with this topic, Bill or Ed ...


-Toby

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

I'm not sure who's more obsessed with this topic, Bill or Ed ...


-Toby

Actually I find it quite amusing.Once I get the engine back in the car and some means of support my amusement level will return to normal.:>):>)

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by John Kelley

There is another section on this Forum that REQUIRES the person have a Permanent Number and be racing. So why are you trying to make policy for this section ??

You and Bill apparently don't get the jist of my post.
More simple: Anybody with enough blood flowing through their veins to their fingertips can post on this board. They don't have to be even remotely associated with a race team in any form or fashion. There are no requirements for names, no evidence of participation in a S/SS, nothing. As I stated, a post could be made by a 5 year old.
The forum here invites and accepts non racers. That is clear, that is acceptable to most including myself. However, based on the lack of credentials of say the 5 year old, and maybe an entire group of 5 year olds, should that group impact what actual racers must adhere too?
They have no skin in the game. Rebel rouser's sometimes chide just for the fun of it. Bill Dedman has already commented that he will never again participate in S/SS racing. Obviously he has no skin in this game and stands to gain nothing one way or the other. The fact he hopes this issue will transcend into his bracket class has no bearing on S/SS racing for the red light rule (whatever it may be) would not necessarily be applied to all forms of drag racing.
I'm wondering if Bill thought it was unfair that deep staging was once allowed? Or maybe he believes the disallowing of deep staging is unfair?

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

You and Bill apparently don't get the jist of my post.
More simple: Anybody with enough blood flowing through their veins to their fingertips can post on this board. They don't have to be even remotely associated with a race team in any form or fashion. There are no requirements for names, no evidence of participation in a S/SS, nothing. As I stated, a post could be made by a 5 year old.
The forum here invites and accepts non racers. That is clear, that is acceptable to most including myself. However, based on the lack of credentials of say the 5 year old, and maybe an entire group of 5 year olds, should that group impact what actual racers must adhere too?
They have no skin in the game. Rebel rouser's sometimes chide just for the fun of it. Bill Dedman has already commented that he will never again participate in S/SS racing. Obviously he has no skin in this game and stands to gain nothing one way or the other. The fact he hopes this issue will transcend into his bracket class has no bearing on S/SS racing for the red light rule (whatever it may be) would not necessarily be applied to all forms of drag racing.
I'm wondering if Bill thought it was unfair that deep staging was once allowed? Or maybe he believes the disallowing of deep staging is unfair?

Please Jeff.Don't wind him up again.

[Mark Yacavone]

I'm wondering if Bill thought it was unfair that deep staging was once allowed? Or maybe he believes the disallowing of deep staging is unfair?

Jeff,
You don't?

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

They have no skin in the game. Rebel rouser's sometimes chide just for the fun of it. Bill Dedman has already commented that he will never again participate in S/SS racing. Obviously he has no skin in this game and stands to gain nothing one way or the other. The fact he hopes this issue will transcend into his bracket class has no bearing on S/SS racing for the red light rule (whatever it may be) would not necessarily be applied to all forms of drag racing.

Handicap racing is Handicap racing......from Comp on down....No matter if it's A/D or a T/SA Gremlin !
And you quit racing....where is the "skin" ???