Want to loose 3200 ugly pounds?

[Jeff Teuton]

Well, let me tell you about Baton Rouge. I picked D/FIA to run only because there was only one D/FIA in the nation in the whole year last year and that person was from Michigan. So I ran that so I would not offend anyone. Only guy. So I ran what the car seemed to like. I think I went 4 or 5 rounds in a bracket race. No heads up---on purpose. So it was 1.70 under a very soft index. So what. Gee, what a deal. Purposely avoid any heads up and get hosed.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

Well, let me tell you about Baton Rouge. I picked D/FIA to run only because there was only one D/FIA in the nation in the whole year last year and that person was from Michigan. So I ran that so I would not offend anyone. Only guy. So I ran what the car seemed to like. I think I went 4 or 5 rounds in a bracket race. No heads up---on purpose. So it was 1.70 under a very soft index. So what. Gee, what a deal. Purposely avoid any heads up and get hosed.

Jeff,I like your opinion of the question I asked you.

[Jeff Teuton]

Well Ed, let me tell you. We have been working out these stock and ss cars since l958. And we learned plenty. And we applied what we learned to these new cars. Matter of fact I was in touch with the factory before the financial trouble about these cars. No one was more surprised than me when they actually made the cars. A 68 Hemi Dart today would have a 4 link, aluminum heads, efi (which did not exist back the, and neither did this crap they call pump gas), a Jerico, a two disc clutch and all the stuff we now have. Would you expect the manufacturers to build an old technology car? Did you know that the average stock/ss efi motor makes about 10 hp less than a carb? A comp motor makes about 20 less. The adjustablity is what makes them work good. The workout time now is about 5% of the time from the 60's. The knowledge is out there. Sorta like an Apple IIE, still a good computer, does the same as the newest stuff, but not as efficient. I'm not sure what you are looking for, but its all I got. Progress is touch, and change is here. No going back.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

Well Ed, let me tell you. We have been working out these stock and ss cars since l958. And we learned plenty. And we applied what we learned to these new cars. Matter of fact I was in touch with the factory before the financial trouble about these cars. No one was more surprised than me when they actually made the cars. A 68 Hemi Dart today would have a 4 link, aluminum heads, efi (which did not exist back the, and neither did this crap they call pump gas), a Jerico, a two disc clutch and all the stuff we now have. Would you expect the manufacturers to build an old technology car? Did you know that the average stock/ss efi motor makes about 10 hp less than a carb? A comp motor makes about 20 less. The adjustablity is what makes them work good. The workout time now is about 5% of the time from the 60's. The knowledge is out there. Sorta like an Apple IIE, still a good computer, does the same as the newest stuff, but not as efficient. I'm not sure what you are looking for, but its all I got. Progress is touch, and change is here. No going back.

Jeff,I agree with what you said,but these new cars are way underfactored compared to the
Hemis,BBC and even the 335HP Cobra Jets.Do you agree with what Bo said about you
guys having at it in your own classes,away from the old combos?Sounds like a good start to re awakening S/SS in the eyes of the public.If the next generation were made in the spirit of the old cars,like mentioned previously,stripper showroom models you wouldn't have to mortgage your future on, we might see a resurgence in class racing.Wadda ya think?

[Alan Roehrich]

Jeff, interesting you mentioned the 68 Hemi Dart. Wasn't that car placed in Super Stock immediately? Which is the point everyone has been making from the beginning.

[borninamopar]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Jeff, interesting you mentioned the 68 Hemi Dart. Wasn't that car placed in Super Stock immediately? Which is the point everyone has been making from the beginning.

I'll answer for Mr. Jeff, since ya'll got him stirred up...He's probably drinking a LaBatt and laughing at all this..The 68 Hemi Dart was built specifically to compete in the SS class. Not stock, but SS. Mr Jeff probably knows the history of stock and SS racing racing better than most racers on this forum..That family has been around before dirt. They had one of the first 68 Hemi Darts, along with Mr. Sid. I believe alot of ya'll are just jealous of what that family has accomplished. I'm proud to say they are some of my racer heros. They are legends in this sport,compared to most of ya'll.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by borninamopar

I'll answer for Mr. Jeff, since ya'll got him stirred up...He's probably drinking a LaBatt and laughing at all this..The 68 Hemi Dart was built specifically to compete in the SS class. Not stock, but SS. Mr Jeff probably knows the history of stock and SS racing racing better than most racers on this forum..That family has been around before dirt. They had one of the first 68 Hemi Darts, along with Mr. Sid. I believe alot of ya'll are just jealous of what that family has accomplished. I'm proud to say they are some of my racer heros. They are legends in this sport,compared to most of ya'll.

Jeff can and will answer for himself. And it would apparently be an excellent thing for him to do, since you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

I don't think anyone here is jealous of the Teuton family. I happen to like Jeff, and respect him. That does not mean I don't disagree with him on several things.

Maybe you should let the adults talk now, since you have no idea what is being discussed, and you have no dog in the fight.

[Richard Grant]

I vote leave stock alone.

[Andys dad]

I hate to interupt but ours is not ugly and it weighs 3600

Jeff I just could not resist

You know I want seperate classes - or we would run A/SA at 3800

Hope Kevin turns it loose this weekend in Atlanta



:-) peace

[cutta]

Here's some food for thought for those concerned about the safety of stock cars on 9inch tires.

There is currently a new outlaw power adder class that is receiving tons of popularity called Outlaw 8.5. These cars run on 26x8.5 slicks and run well over a 140mph in the 1/8th with over 1500hp. To my surprise, I've yet to here of any catastrophic wrecks or incidents due to the small tire. Most stock cars down make anywhere near 1500HP and if these style cars with power adders can get safely down the track, one could reason that stock cars could and should be able do the same in a more safe manner since stockers are allowed a better slick than a 26x8.5. Yes I know I have no stake in the argument, but tire technology is light years from where it used to be and are much more safe than people realize.

10.5inch slicks have been well over 200mph

12inch slicks have been well over 240mph

there's plenty of room left before any stock car reaches the 9inch slicks safety threshold in my opinion.