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Old 05-16-2011, 12:13 AM   #551
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:52 AM   #552
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Here is what some bracket racers have to say about this subject.

http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...2/m/1377086106

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Interesting reading, thanks for the link Jeff. Jim



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Old 05-16-2011, 12:55 AM   #553
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Ha ha ha! I get it. I have been warned! Jim


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Old 05-16-2011, 01:53 AM   #554
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Been camping with BSA this weekend. I see that Bill just slid past my "this is who gets harmed scenario" and tried to spin it to "why not build an AA/S car"
Bill, when I ran D/S, my car was typically at the events I participated was fastest car in D/S, C/S and at least half of any B/S field. And that would usually cover the same classes with an auto trans in it. So I'm not sure what the math is but I would guestimate that my car was in the top 10-15% of the event. And I built an AMX because I liked the specs and that would include the 97" wheelbase. I studied the NHRA Stock classification guide and engine blueprint guide (which I spent $400 on from NHRA as this was not web based at the time I bought the car). And I'd bet I had more research into what to build than a great majority who "just happen" on a race car for class racing.
So in this example (and I KNOW I'm not the only one with these smarts in NHRA racing), I built what I thought would be very competitive with the idea that I would leave second a part of that scenario. And the same logic is following me as I transform the car to SS/H status. Trust me, I don't expect to be leaving first on too many cars.
So you asked for an example of who would get hurt. I gave one. Then you resorted to the fairness doctrine. That tells me no amount of logic on the other side of the fence will be considered.
And I liked the response (who?) which asked about a double red-light / breakout situation. Mark Yacavone said the race was over once there was a red light winner declared (first or worst). Then that surely doesn't sound fair because if we have to play fair, it should be all the way down to the finish line! Make it so both racers AT LEAST GET A CHANCE TO PROVE THEIR PROWESS AT ET PREDICTION!
That's it, I'm done. It was nice not having internet access while in the forest this weekend!
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:33 AM   #555
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. Mark Yacavone said the race was over once there was a red light winner declared (first or worst). Then that surely doesn't sound fair because if we have to play fair, it should be all the way down to the finish line! Make it so both racers AT LEAST GET A CHANCE TO PROVE THEIR PROWESS AT ET PREDICTION!
That's it, I'm done. It was nice not having internet access while in the forest this weekend!
Jeff, You can get all the dial in practice you want now, even if you red light..Run it right out the back door. That is ,if you want to put a hit on your combo LOL
Just think about all the extra practice you'll get when Bill gets this changed.
You'll have to hit the tree every single time, even if you think that SS/PA left a tad early .
Don K will get so much practice, he might become a Touring Pro one day, Right, Don ?
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:04 AM   #556
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Lets just go back to the Flagman and this will all go away...........
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:45 AM   #557
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Jeff,

I run SS/HA and I rarely get to leave 2nd. Most of the cars in super stock and modified run faster than mine.
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:09 PM   #558
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And almost as up-to-date as the rule we're trying to get changed to something more current.
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:24 PM   #559
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And almost as up-to-date as the rule we're trying to get changed to something more current.
If you don't go to the HRAs, how are you going to get it changed?
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:47 PM   #560
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Default Re: worst red light debate, again!

Think I'll wait until they send a letter (if they ever do !!!) to NHRA, then I'll use my advisory board to let them know that I don't want the change.
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