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Old 05-19-2011, 07:55 PM   #591
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Default Re: worst red light debate, again!

Also being light on the scales......

The car was not legal when it staged which was prior to the tree activating....

This cancels a red light start.....

Sooooooooooooo first or worst still applies.....

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PS....The red light rule might be the only NHRA rule that is NOT first or worst????
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Old 05-19-2011, 08:42 PM   #592
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Bob, it's not FIRST to go red?
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:24 AM   #593
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[Ed Wright;Bob, it's not FIRST to go red?]

What are you talking about..................

It's first or worst.........

Wasn't I clear enough....

NHRA has a policy that was in the rule book for years that NHRA would always have a round winner..The policy is first or worst to determine the winner of the round of racing....EXCEPT red lights which is first only and NOT first or worst...

It should be either the first red light or the worst red light....or crossing the center line or hitting the wall or punching out an NHRA official....whatever is first OR worst

You can even win on a single red light if the other car is light…..First OR Worst…

This is like pulling teeth

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Old 05-20-2011, 01:41 AM   #594
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What are you talking about..................

It's first or worst.........

It's either the first red light or the worst red light....

Bob
I don't know what you're talking about.

In the first place, when you compare TWO items (such as red lights) there are only two degrees of infractions; "worst" is not one of them.

It's first, or worse, not "worst."

Like, bad, worse, and worst, in the English language... There are three degrees of "bad." Since there are no "worst" red lights (only a first red light, or a worse red light) there can never be a "worst."

The current system has no way to compare the two red lights (if two occur on one run) and only recognizes the first one, and issues a disqualification when it "sees" this happen.

Since there iS no second red light, there is no "worse", no matter what the first one was.

THAT's what we're trying to fix, here.

The second car to leave NEVER has his chance to red light, if the first car bulbed.

Some people feel that red light jeopardy should be a part of everyone's racing experience.

Right now, it's not. There is no such thing as a "worse red light" with today's rules, as regards handicap racing..

Maybe someday...
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Old 05-20-2011, 08:12 AM   #595
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It still ain't gonna change, no matter how much you cry about it.
It's like pulling teeth getting through some thick heads that it is what it is, and if you can't live with that, either build a fast car or don't race. Do something else. Go fishing.
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It still ain't gonna change, no matter how much you cry about it.
It's like pulling teeth getting through some thick heads that it is what it is, and if you can't live with that, either build a fast car or don't race. Do something else. Go fishing.
Nobodys disputing that, Ed. If they had a rule that said all red cars have to pull an extra two hundred pounds, would you think that was okay, too?

Makes as much sense...
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:32 AM   #597
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It still ain't gonna change, no matter how much you cry about it.
It's like pulling teeth getting through some thick heads that it is what it is, and if you can't live with that, either build a fast car or don't race. Do something else. Go fishing.
You don't like this thread so you appoint yourself to tell people what to do ??
And many tines yo've said that you don't care one way or the other ??
Maybe you should go fishing ! Or snipe hunting !!!
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You don't like this thread so you appoint yourself to tell people what to do ??
And many tines yo've said that you don't care one way or the other ??
Maybe you should go fishing ! Or snipe hunting !!!
Maybe you should get a race car so your opinion might become relevant.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:39 AM   #599
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I don't know what you're talking about.

In the first place, when you compare TWO items (such as red lights) there are only two degrees of infractions; "worst" is not one of them.

It's first, or worse, not "worst."

Like, bad, worse, and worst, in the English language... There are three degrees of "bad." Since there are no "worst" red lights (only a first red light, or a worse red light) there can never be a "worst."

The current system has no way to compare the two red lights (if two occur on one run) and only recognizes the first one, and issues a disqualification when it "sees" this happen.

Since there iS no second red light, there is no "worse", no matter what the first one was.

THAT's what we're trying to fix, here.

The second car to leave NEVER has his chance to red light, if the first car bulbed.

Some people feel that red light jeopardy should be a part of everyone's racing experience.

Right now, it's not. There is no such thing as a "worse red light" with today's rules, as regards handicap racing..

Maybe someday...
Like all dying arguments, it almost always resorts to either name calling, spell checking or grammar corrections. I think you know what Bob was trying to say.
And I don't think this thread is going to die until it hits 20,000; at least. Looks like all arguments are exhausted except those noted. So what's the point? Internet status? As far as I know, nothing has been formerly presented to NHRA so it must be that, internet status. Yea! What an accomplishment!
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I'll go snipe hunting with you Ed. I like them. They taste like chicken.
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