worst red light debate, again!

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Like all dying arguments, it almost always resorts to either name calling, spell checking or grammar corrections. I think you know what Bob was trying to say.
And I don't think this thread is going to die until it hits 20,000; at least. Looks like all arguments are exhausted except those noted. So what's the point? Internet status? As far as I know, nothing has been formerly presented to NHRA so it must be that, internet status. Yea! What an accomplishment!

I saw no name calling in that post or any other that Bill has written so far. You must be confusing Bill with Ed Wright. Jim


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[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

I saw no name calling in that post or any other that Bill has written so far. You must be confusing Bill with Ed Wright. Jim


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Bill hit the grammar on this one, hit the name calling on another ("poor character" for which he did apologize) and others have done the insulting. I was generalizing the angle of those felt betrayed or otherwise annoyed by the issue. Both sides.
So to make it clear...the horse seems to be quite dead as its *** hangs on one side of the fence and it's head on the other but this thread will continue if for no other reason, internet bragging rights.

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Bill hit the grammar on this one, hit the name calling on another ("poor character" for which he did apologize) and others have done the insulting. I was generalizing the angle of those felt betrayed or otherwise annoyed by the issue. Both sides.
So to make it clear...the horse seems to be quite dead as its *** hangs on one side of the fence and it's head on the other but this thread will continue if for no other reason, internet bragging rights.

Not to split hairs here, but my commenting on how an attitude reflects on a person's character, falls a long way from "name calling." If I'd said he was an " inconsiderate, small-minded, S.O.B." (which I did not,) THAT would have been "name calling."

You won't find that kind of personal rhetoric from me, on these boards. I apologized to the damaged party because he obviously had taken offense at my remark, and it was something I had said that I, in retrospect, regretted. He, in no way, deserved that judgment. Lucky for me, he accepted my apology.

The "worse" or "worst" red light subject isn't "Grammar," per se, but has to do with accurate communication, a staple of BB's like this one. In order for there to be a "worst" red light, there would have to be the ORIGINAL red light, a "worse" red light, and a third, or, "WORST" red light. And, as we all know, there are only two.... and, I thought it needed clearing up.

So the fact is, there is nothing in the world that can accurately be called a "WORST" red light.... it's just a matter of degree, not "Grammar."

Insofar as "bragging rights" relative to this thread is concerned, I am pretty sure there aren't any.

I know I haven't been able to accomplish anything (except Jim Wahl's welcome conversion) in the realm of winning supporters to the double red light system.

Maybe we could brag about how Big this thread is???? They say "size matters." LOL!

I'm in trouble...

[Jim Wahl]

Hey Bill, you better head on over to the ER. Your forehead must be bleeding badly by now! Jim



Use 'worse' if you're comparing two things: "I think eggplant is worse than squash, but that's just my opinion."

Use 'worst' if you're comparing multiple things: "I disagree. Eggplant and boiled cabbage are both vile, but squash is the worst!"


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[Mike Gray]

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[Ed Wright]

Jim, I've seen enough of your posts in the lounge to know your views. Many of them sound like they just fell out of glen beck's rear. That part was a joke. But when somebody builds a car knowing the rules, then expects a rule changed and some software re-written to make their life easier, it sounds like they maybe talk the talk but don't walk the walk. Looking for a little Obama care are ya? LOL
I understood the rules when I put mine together, I don't need handouts.

When are you guys going to do something other than talk?

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Jim, I've seen enough of your posts in the lounge to know your views. Many of them sound like they just fell out of glen beck's rear. That part was a joke. But when somebody builds a car knowing the rules, then expects a rule changed and some software re-written to make their life easier, it sounds like they maybe talk the talk but don't walk the walk. Looking for a little Obama care are ya? LOL
I understood the rules when I put mine together, I don't need handouts.

When are you guys going to do something other than talk?

Ed, explain to ME (not Jim,) where's the "handout" for a rule that treats EVERYBODY THE SAME, instead of favoring one segment over the other, like it is, now????

The sodftware re-write will make EVERYONE'S life easier, unless you're running a SS/A car, and all it will do to that car, is put it on equal footing with everybody else... no more "handouts" (free rides.)

If you disagree with this assessment, please tell me what it is about everybody running under the SAME red light jeopardy that you object to.

Where's the handout???? I;m listening (for an answer to that question... don't change the subject, please...) I want to know what's wrong, in your mind, with rules that treat everybody the same.

Please answer that.

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

Hey Bill, you better head on over to the ER. Your forehead must be bleeding badly by now! Jim



Use 'worse' if you're comparing two things: "I think eggplant is worse than squash, but that's just my opinion."

Use 'worst' if you're comparing multiple things: "I disagree. Eggplant and boiled cabbage are both vile, but squash is the worst!"


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Once again, we agree; I used pizza; you used eggplant... but it always takes at least three things to have a "worst."

[Bob Mulry]

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl
Hey Bill, you better head on over to the ER. Your forehead must be bleeding badly by now! Jim



Use 'worse' if you're comparing two things: "I think eggplant is worse than squash, but that's just my opinion."

Use 'worst' if you're comparing multiple things: "I disagree. Eggplant and boiled cabbage are both vile, but squash is the worst!"

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Once again, we agree; I used pizza; you used eggplant... but it always takes at least three things to have a "worst."

Since you guys don't have a clue................

The policy that you are attempting to correct is the policy known as "First or Worst" not first or worse.....

If you didn't understand the content of my prior sentence, feel free to make all of the grammatical corrections that you like....

I think I will sign off with...

Have a nice day....

Bob

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I can't say what I want to say because it will get me tossed off of this forum...

[Mile High]

I've got an idea. How about at a specialty race be it S/SS or brackets lets give it a try? If the software is there, try it. Going to have to test it to see how it works anyway. Who is would try a race with it? You know the HRA's won't make a change without testing and if someone else does it and it works the will look at making a change.

Jeff