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Old 06-14-2011, 10:37 AM   #41
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Yep.....you bracket racers would have to work on your combos a little more. Class winners would have to tear down to be eligable to run the eliminator. I respect your driving abilities BUT its just a bracket race unless you have the misfortune to draw a heads up race. Its called the "Dumbing Down" of class racing. Thats the way it used to be and we had LOTS of cars for class. No...I never won class but I did get runner up a couple of times and Im proud of that. I should have worked harder.....LOL.
P.S. This is one reason the AHFS dosent work the way it should. If it was class winners only the HP factors woud be corrected in just a few months.
Amen Terry that is the truth as I see it. Having been involved since I think 1964 it sure has gone down hill. IMHO
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:34 AM   #42
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And rear wheel drive cars only!
Didn't take many rule tweaks to get rid of most of the FWD cars anyway...

Some people are getting out and racing when and where they can. This past weekend, Coastal Plains Dragway in Jacksonville, NC hosted the first Carolina Bracket Series 2-day event. There were a few Stockers who came out to play... $100 weekend entry for two $3K/win races. The bracket guys knew we were there. Marshburn sat on the bye 2nd or 3rd round on Saturday, DW was running 7.68's like they were going out of style (and you know he was having fun... I saw a few old-school dry hops! LOL). I double-entered the Turismo. Saturday, went 3rd round on one entry and 1/4-finals on the other, Sunday, 4th rnd and quarters again. DW and I got to wander over to the circle track side and take in a little action Saturday night, too.

Track's photo gallery is at http://www.coastalplainsraceway.com/dragway/gallery/
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Old 06-14-2011, 12:05 PM   #43
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Yep, that would be great. And a sure way to increase the already dwindling car counts...
And don't forget increase costs for those that do decide to stick around!

I'm generally as old-school as they get, but there's a reason why NHRA did away with this rule many, many years ago: dwindling car counts because nobody wanted to go to a race that they knew they couldn't win. Hence the reason why E.T. racing gained so much popularity in the late 70's and early 80's.
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Yep.....you bracket racers would have to work on your combos a little more. Class winners would have to tear down to be eligable to run the eliminator. I respect your driving abilities BUT its just a bracket race unless you have the misfortune to draw a heads up race. Its called the "Dumbing Down" of class racing. Thats the way it used to be and we had LOTS of cars for class. No...I never won class but I did get runner up a couple of times and Im proud of that. I should have worked harder.....LOL.
P.S. This is one reason the AHFS dosent work the way it should. If it was class winners only the HP factors woud be corrected in just a few months.
Terry,

I was under the impression that most guys did work pretty hard on their combos. Look at the car counts now. They're not so great. If stock and super stock ever went back to the old structure the participation would be even worse. You prob had more guys show up for class back then, because it was cheaper to race. Alot of people have a hard enough time anymore more being able to afford putting gas in their tow vehicles to get to the races. Maybe you should start your own sanctioning body. Then class winners could run the eliminator, you could run off the record, you could be a tech guy again, and race the way it used to back in the 70's.
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Michael - Looks like you and some of your friends had a nice time at Coastal Plains - but isn't the track a little narrow ? Maybe not for your "little car " but .....................
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Old 06-14-2011, 05:21 PM   #46
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Terry,

I was under the impression that most guys did work pretty hard on their combos. Look at the car counts now. They're not so great. If stock and super stock ever went back to the old structure the participation would be even worse. You prob had more guys show up for class back then, because it was cheaper to race. Alot of people have a hard enough time anymore more being able to afford putting gas in their tow vehicles to get to the races. Maybe you should start your own sanctioning body. Then class winners could run the eliminator, you could run off the record, you could be a tech guy again, and race the way it used to back in the 70's.
When I raced at Bowlinng Green, KY. I believe we had 8 or 9 cars in SS/IA. I wouldnt want to work tech again if hell froze over first......LOL. Just saying it would be one way for the AHFS to work like it is supposed to. It sure isnt working very well now.
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Terry,

I was under the impression that most guys did work pretty hard on their combos. Look at the car counts now. They're not so great. If stock and super stock ever went back to the old structure the participation would be even worse. You prob had more guys show up for class back then, because it was cheaper to race. Alot of people have a hard enough time anymore more being able to afford putting gas in their tow vehicles to get to the races. Maybe you should start your own sanctioning body. Then class winners could run the eliminator, you could run off the record, you could be a tech guy again, and race the way it used to back in the 70's.

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Preach on, brother! If they want a true performance based class go and run Comp Eliminator.

If the old style of only class winners racing the eliminator was working so well, why did they get rid of it?


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Michael - Looks like you and some of your friends had a nice time at Coastal Plains - but isn't the track a little narrow ? Maybe not for your "little car " but .....................
Yep, they've just expanded to run "4-Wide on the Coast".

Sorry for not captioning... they added some paved pit roads, and thought people would like to know. The track itself is wide and works really well. Pro Stock driver Ronnie Humphries is the owner/operator. You'll see him out on the track drag, at the payout window, everywhere. Very hands on. They've done some match racing with Greg Anderson and Jason Line and reeled off some 4-teen's in the 1/8th if I recall. Anthony Walton and I are promoting the $20K Fall Footbrake Frenzy there over Thanksgiving weekend. Here's some overview shots from prior events...
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Michael how was the track this past weekend, I've heard that there have been some issues with track prep this year. I'm about an hour away but haven't been down this year. Maybe its only when Ronnie isn't there.
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Preach on, brother! If they want a true performance based class go and run Comp Eliminator.

If the old style of only class winners racing the eliminator was working so well, why did they get rid of it?


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