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Old 06-29-2011, 09:53 PM   #1
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Default Re: NHRA letter on AHFS....

Nice letter with good points made.Please don't take my points as criticism.I don't think the upper echelon of NHRA is going to change the way things are running as far as the structure of S/SS.The present fan structure at national events are focused on the fuel cars.
Notice the stands empty out as soon as T/F and F/C finish.
Also the structure of the currant AHFS seems to be to their liking.Only recently have some of the new cars started to show the potential they're capable of.
As far as class payouts I think the sponsors are really showing the effects of the economy,the roadblocks put up in front of them by NHRA in the way of fees and over the years the growth in numbers of races they have to be committed to in maying postings available.Remember in the 60s and 70s how many major races did they post contingency for.There were also way less companies out there making race parts,so they got a larger market share.
Lastly you have a different cross section of racers now in S/SS.Now you have diehard
go fast guys,bracket racers,casual (as in attending 2-3 races a year),etc.
I'd love to have things revert back to a simpler racing structure,but I think it's just a natural
progression of progress that we're seeing in all forms of racing.
Remember when NASCAR was all a bunch of good ol' tobacco chewers,with some moonshiners mixed in for good measure?
The preceeding was written with apologies to all that think I'm just whiney old ba$tard.
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:44 PM   #2
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The preceeding was written with apologies to all that think I'm just whiney old ba$tard.
To quote that eminent philosopher, Leroy Jethro Gibbs: Rule #6: Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:07 PM   #3
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To quote that eminent philosopher, Leroy Jethro Gibbs: Rule #6: Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:42 PM   #4
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I follow the philosophies of Rufus T. Firefly and Col. Jeffrey T Spaulding.With a bit of
Otis P. Driftwood for good measure.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:08 AM   #5
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I'm with Mr. Beard on this one. Factor closer and problem solved. Never happen unless another venue emerges. Also suddenly fast comes to mind.
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Wink Re: NHRA letter on AHFS....

And the HP factor for the new 5.0 Ford is what?
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Old 06-30-2011, 05:47 AM   #7
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Default Re: NHRA letter on AHFS....

Certainly a well thought out letter. No matter what your opinion, I do think that the approach to send it to NHRA is still a necessary one. Far too many post on line here and elsewhere and yet they never voice their opinion to NHRA officially. I agree, it seems that they don't seem to understand,or at least the people that do respond don't feel that they can make a change even if they wanted to. I would hope if enough people did communicate to them officially and not just on line, under an avatar, there would be a better chance for improvements.

I think that there needs to be some process change that gets people excited about the Division race participation. The Nationals don't seem to be a concern, but the local track operators need the car counts to be able to afford to have us in the show.

If NHRA supported changes that made people WANT to go, maybe the car counts at a Division level would improve.

I also think that offering a class runoff as an extra optional race in some fashion at the Division races could be successful for the operators and fun for the racers too. The AHFS process would likely need to be adjusted there in order for that to happen.
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Old 06-30-2011, 07:00 PM   #8
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I don't know whats going on with the NHRA. I raced a max wedge 415 hp back in the 70s d/sa and you had to have the right engine, trans ,ect,ect. I'm just now getting back into it and i'm dissapointed about the new rules. I was hoping to run stock eliminater, but after reading and hearing the forums I 'll just run brackets.
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:22 PM   #9
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Great letter Wade and I agree something needs to be done. There are a lot, more than most think that are "old style cars" that can run 1.0 under the new index. Most are focused with the new cars becasue they can do it so easy. The current system is better than the old ways and better than nothing until something better comes along. It is and always will be moving forward a game to protect ones combination. It would be nice to see stock/super stockers unload somewhere without getting HP, it was and is a performance class with bracket features. A looming heads up is what makes it so cool in my opinion..
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:29 PM   #10
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