Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

[goinbroke2]

I LOVE this thread! Had/lost a 82GT intake damn it. Been looking ever since. I'm a little leary on 86 fuelie 302's though as that was an "oddball" year with unique flat top pistons and bad flowing heads with "swirl dams" built in. The 87 and later fuelie 302's obviously work much better.
That said 162hp 2bbl 302 or 200hp fuelie;

162 hp, .419/.448 lift, hyd cam, 67cc head, 1.21 carb (I think)
200hp, .445/.445 lift, roller cam, 62cc head, 2.3" throttle

Is the roller cam, more lift, smaller chamber and higher flowing intake side worth 38hp???

Other note I guess is I like the look of the 82 but not the 86 LOL!

[goinbroke2]

Oh, can I add one please? 91 ranger 2.3 4cyl auto.
Not a killer as it's heavy for JT/SA but....
2.3 @ 105hp
10:1 comp 57cc head
1.73/1.5 valves
.254 lift (ohc)
25.86 factor making it 2715 lb's where JT/SA is 22.0 and over.
The 2.3 ford has a HUGE fan base/knowledge in roundy round and rally trucks and 4cyl rangers are given away with a box of strawberries around here.
Index of 16.75...thoughts?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by goinbroke2

Oh, can I add one please? 91 ranger 2.3 4cyl auto.
Not a killer as it's heavy for JT/SA but....
2.3 @ 105hp
10:1 comp 57cc head
1.73/1.5 valves
.254 lift (ohc)
25.86 factor making it 2715 lb's where JT/SA is 22.0 and over.
The 2.3 ford has a HUGE fan base/knowledge in roundy round and rally trucks and 4cyl rangers are given away with a box of strawberries around here.
Index of 16.75...thoughts?

Or run NHRA W/SA @ 24 lbs. Now it ain't so heavy.

[Dwight Southerland]

It's interesting to me how much alike Billy and I think and what we seem to be aware of. I am going to have to be quicker on the draw these days or he will empty my list for me!!

Here is one that is similar, Billy. In fact, you mention it and we can see this one race on the West Coast.
1977 or 79 Pacer station wagon 258/110/150 for V/SA or a 1977 Hornet SW or 1979 Concord SW for U/SA

Decent compression for a 6 cylinder, decent cylinder head (real ports!), better bore-stroke relationship than BIlly's MoPar, and a 2-bbl carb. Uses a 998 Torqueflite with a 2.74 first gear and has lots of Jeep history. Jim Mantle qualifies in the top of the field in Div 7 with this combination.

[Billy Nees]

Dwight, I know that combo all too well. I constantly have to deal with Eddie Fernandez's Gremlin.

Mark, the reason that I tend to like 2V combos (especially the Buick) is they're less likely to hurt themselves (and to stay out of expensive classes).

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Dwight, I know that combo all too well. I constantly have to deal with Eddie Fernandez's Gremlin.

Mark, the reason that I tend to like 2V combos (especially the Buick) is they're less likely to hurt themselves (and to stay out of expensive classes).

That combo is a stinker.It's taking me to the poor house.
Dwight,I'd say that you two were seperated at birth,but you're way too good looking to be twins.:>):>):>)

[Bob Pagano]

I want to thank Billy and Dwight for a weekend of eye opening facts and Mark too with follow up info. Great thread, I am sure some folks are taking notes and we will actually see a few of these combos in the coming months. Great job guys.

[Ronnie Hamlin]

OK, here's another mopar that will get into "U"
1979 Aspen SE station wagon with a 318/135/185 (natural break is 19.13,add weight to make U) The small 2bbl would be a limiting factor, but the coolness of a station wagon with woodgrain is undeniable!

[Billy Nees]

Happy July 4th! One more "popper"!
77-83 Mopar 2V 225/140
This is probably the "Dime Rocket" with the most pop for the dime but you gotta like slow, not pretty (IMHO) cars.
Small Carter 2V carb beats any other inline 6 (except AMCs).
.410/.419 cam
6 real intake ports (that ain't bad) and the manifold is better than it looks.
Valves are small but not too small for the cylinder.
Long stroke and not alot of compression but hey, 140 HP with 2v carb.
Bodies are still plentiful as are rears and engines for not alot of $$$.
Low gear 6 cyl case 904s can be found.
Early no frills Volare could be made light enough to fit U. It seems like all of the other bodies would have to lose wt. to fit V.
Might have to "copple up" some truck headers but they're around.
Good scrounge could do this one really cheap!

[The Hawk]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Happy July 4th! One more "popper"!
77-83 Mopar 2V 225/140
This is probably the "Dime Rocket" with the most pop for the dime but you gotta like slow, not pretty (IMHO) cars.
Small Carter 2V carb beats any other inline 6 (except AMCs).
.410/.419 cam
6 real intake ports (that ain't bad) and the manifold is better than it looks.
Valves are small but not too small for the cylinder.
Long stroke and not alot of compression but hey, 140 HP with 2v carb.
Bodies are still plentiful as are rears and engines for not alot of $$$.
Low gear 6 cyl case 904s can be found.
Early no frills Volare could be made light enough to fit U. It seems like all of the other bodies would have to lose wt. to fit V.
Might have to "copple up" some truck headers but they're around.
Good scrounge could do this one really cheap!

There`s one of these out of Nebraska that just recently went nearly one second under the new index/altitude factor in Denver a few weeks ago. That`s 1.48 under the old index in V/SA!