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Old 07-22-2011, 10:36 AM   #32
Mike Croley
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Default Re: Mobil 1 oil

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Originally Posted by Reed Granrt View Post
Ed---I normally sit on the side lines and dont post, but this one I could not resist. You will be surprised at how many people will put the additive in after the motor has been started and run or running. Instructions mean very little. You should watch these same people put their kids toys together at Christmas.
Also for a further comment. I had used Mobil One for several years as it was really the first synthetic to really be made for the public and it really did work nicely. But as they worked feverishly to remove ZDDP and all other anti scuff materials, we saw problems on the dyno and in customers race engines. So we had to look for alternatives. I tried several but the Joe Gibbs seem to work better than most we had tried and with 400+ across the nose on a stocker cam, it scared me not to look. One day I had an engine on the dyno and Lake Speed Jr(who runs Joe Gibbs Oil) called me and we was talking and I asked what additive I could add to the oil and give me better insurance. His comment back to me and I will never forget it was " are you a F___king chemist and know more than we do. If it needed any thing more to be added to the oil, I would already have done it" Needless to say I have not asked any more questions to him since then. He and his representative came buy a few months back and I surely did not ask any more stupid question. But one thing I can add to the converstion, there are some additive out there that will "blind" a filter and totaly make it ineffective as a filtering agent. I also have seen additives separate out from certain oils. There is know way that you can have an additive and it be compatible with ALL oils. Let the oil people do their job and pay what ever you need to to use their knowledge and spend your time and resources on things you can do something about
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Lake isn't one to sugar coat his comments , that's for sure . But he's right . How much of what goes into top quality race oils is a pretty closely guarded secret . So without knowing whats in it , theres no way to know what to add . And many , if not most additives fall out of suspension and stay that way . There really isn't anything you can add to a top flight race oil that will improve it , but almost everything you can add will make it perform worse .
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