What would your Div director do ?

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by Dan Bennett

I've sat in Race Control with a lot of different DDs, and honestly I can only think of one or two who shouldn't be there. Even though it might not be obvious in the pits, as I've listened in on their decision making processes it was obvious the decision was made contingent on what was best for the most racers.

I agree that it's only a five minute deal to pair two cars. But every time I've seen this happen, things get uglier than an episode of Pinks. This guy needs to go service his clutch, that guy needs to get his engine stone cold, another one complains because he remembers how the issue was handled in 1976, and on and on.

If the class has completed before the re-run occurs, the computer operator has to shut down what they're doing and change to the correct eliminator file - and then change back. There may or may not be more changes to make like .4 or .5 tree, crosstalk, etc.

No, it's not the end of the world, but it ends up taking a lot more time than you'd imagine and a lot more chances to screw something up.

As far as I'm concerned you tell the racers that the rerun will occur as the last pair of that session, with or without them. But I never see that happen since the DDs are trying to be fair to everbody.

I dont care what you have seen happen its whats fair to the driver that spent the money to get there and in the points battle the rest of the stuff you said is BS

[Dan Bennett]

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley

I dont care what you have seen happen its whats fair to the driver that spent the money to get there and in the points battle the rest of the stuff you said is BS

No need to get up on the tires, Mickey. Take a deep breath and read my first reply.

"Any provable tree malfunction should result in a re-run with no questions asked."

Did you miss that part?

I thought it might add to the discussion to add some facts from a viewpoint most racers never see. It still doesn't change my opinion. There should have been a rerun. Sorry if I wasn't clear when I tried to talk about what's involved.

As for you calling BS, then talk to your fellow racers. They were the ones who came up with the examples I gave.

Look, we're living in some very strange times right now. Regardless of what a lot of people are working at right now, you really don't have to choose up sides. I'm not your enemy.

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by Dan Bennett

No need to get up on the tires, Mickey. Take a deep breath and read my first reply.

"Any provable tree malfunction should result in a re-run with no questions asked."

Did you miss that part?

I thought it might add to the discussion to add some facts from a viewpoint most racers never see. It still doesn't change my opinion. There should have been a rerun. Sorry if I wasn't clear when I tried to talk about what's involved.

As for you calling BS, then talk to your fellow racers. They were the ones who came up with the examples I gave.

Look, we're living in some very strange times right now. Regardless of what a lot of people are working at right now, you really don't have to choose up sides. I'm not your enemy.

Yep lowered the chip you fooled me on your post my fault sorry

[442OLDS]

I was at Columbus and thought I heard some drivers discussing this race,but I didn't know exactly what happened.

I think I heard that the total package of the winning driver was better than .017,which was the reaction time of Marion.

Therefore,the top end driving was not a factor.

However,maybe his light would have been better if the top bulb came on?

The best solution to me would be this:

"Any provable tree malfunction should result in a re-run with no questions asked."

However, I am not a Division Director.Tough job.

[Andrew Hill]

Jay decided not to re-run cars at the Bowling Green open after the tree malfunctioned there, causing late lights with quick 60 ft. times which resulted in quick e.t.'s and lots of breakouts, so it doesn't surprise me that he wouldn't re-run this one. It definitely should have been, though!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

I was at Columbus and thought I heard some drivers discussing this race,but I didn't know exactly what happened.

I think I heard that the total package of the winning driver was better than .017,which was the reaction time of Marion.

Therefore,the top end driving was not a factor.

However,maybe his light would have been better if the top bulb came on?

The best solution to me would be this:

"Any provable tree malfunction should result in a re-run with no questions asked."

However, I am not a Division Director.Tough job.

Some Div. directors really care and some dont. I remeber Greg X. as being one of the good guys. Bob Lang is also one of the good guys. Maybe Im partial to Div. 1....LOL.

[mr305]

wow what a shock d3 director made a not so good call!!! should have been a rerun i know that word is not in his vocabulary i've been nailed by him twice!!!
aaron disinger
327y
gt/ha

[Lew Silverman]

There really shouldn't be any discussion - if the tree malfunctions, the race should be re-run! It's a piece of equipment and equipment breaks so fix it and give both competitors the same advantage.

Just my $.02

Lew

[Beth Denysenko]

Jay hates, loathes and despises stock and superstock. We are a necessary evil to him. And he proves it over and over. Even I have had an all but physical fight with him in the tower once. He was making Superstock wait till the very end of the track's bracket race for their final run. He was even making the bracket guys hot lap insteading of sending Superstock down in between their rounds. It was getting very late and unsafe for the faster cars but he didn't care. Reason was irrelevant.

Ritch Bowers should be our division director. He does all the work anyway and he is fair minded to all racers, not just his pet Top Sportsman and Top Dragsters. And you can thank Jay for the fact that they race in NHRA now too. He stole them from IHRA.

Rerun, no question. I am so sorry Marion got screwed.

[Dennis P Chapman]

Originally Posted by Beth Kieffer

Jay hates, loathes and despises stock and superstock. We are a necessary evil to him. And he proves it over and over. Even I have had an all but physical fight with him in the tower once. He was making Superstock wait till the very end of the track's bracket race for their final run. He was even making the bracket guys hot lap insteading of sending Superstock down in between their rounds. It was getting very late and unsafe for the faster cars but he didn't care. Reason was irrelevant.

Ritch Bowers should be our division director. He does all the work anyway and he is fair minded to all racers, not just his pet Top Sportsman and Top Dragsters. And you can thank Jay for the fact that they race in NHRA now too. He stole them from IHRA.

Rerun, no question. I am so sorry Marion got screwed.

Beth
Stock and superstock are part of the show should be fair to all of use. If he doesnt like the job he should get a new one