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Old 08-06-2011, 11:29 AM   #1
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Default Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'

Did the Jack Werst car get its 'final preperation' at Knopf Plymouth
in Philadelphia,,,,,,,,before Indy 1970.

Didn't Knopf Plymouth have a secret 'skunkworks program' going on
back then,,,,,,,,

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Old 08-06-2011, 08:10 PM   #2
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The article on the Super Bird was published in Mopar Action a couple of years back. It states that Chrysler figured the Chevelle was a cheater car, so they just built the cheater 'Bird to take it out ....
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:38 PM   #3
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Default Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'

That was way back when Chrysler really had a racing program.

They need to get some of 70s racers to tell them how to get cars into more than just two classes in Stock. They sure dont seem to want to listen to me.

Not your Dad's racing program any more... Too bad, because the could do it without spending very much money, and they could get a lot more press....

Thanks for all of the information guys, trips down memory lane are a fun walk..

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Old 08-07-2011, 06:05 PM   #4
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Here's the "Thorn In Mopars Guys Side", does anyone here know how many races Ray Allen won during the time he raced this Chevelle SS convertible.
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Old 08-07-2011, 06:22 PM   #5
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I wonder how many races these two had together, Dick Landy vs Ray Allen, and did they go hunting for each other. This was Dick Landy's 70 Hemi Charger R/T.

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Old 08-07-2011, 06:27 PM   #6
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As I remember, the amount of races that car won is surprising because it's really not that many. Allen won a bunch of the high profile races and the car became famous, though I'll never forget how it looked when it launched.

Now that I'm seeing various pictures of the car, some probably dumb questions are coming to mind.

Allen is listed as "driver". Who actually owned the car when it was being raced? Allen? Briggs? Truppi?

Is that really a fiber optic light monitor I see on the front fender in the last shot you posted?

How did T-K make that kind of horsepower with that ridiculous flat intake manifold? The story of why those intakes were on the LS6s is pretty interesting in itself.
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Is that really a fiber optic light monitor I see on the front fender in the last shot you posted?

Kidding, right?
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The Low-Riser was required, to allow for proper hood clearance.
Intake was for both the Corvette and Chevelle SS454 LS-6 cars.
As many have said before, the GM 163 hi-rise intake fits just fine with the original carb & cowl induction air cleaner setup on the '70 Chevelles...that's what we run on Red Alert [see below].

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Is that really a fiber optic light monitor I see on the front fender in the last shot you posted?

Kidding, right?
LOL, don't laugh, our original "Red Alert" '70 LS6 Chevelle has fiber optics, rear defrost, power windows, console, etc...decked out for a friggin' race car. She's heavy, but she can still get 'em off the ground...
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Default Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'

Briggs owned the car and the ramp truck from what I recall at least for that year. We could not keep up with them with our old GMC on the way back from Sanair's WCS race.....

I am no expert but the intake on a Chevelle was lower than others......

The carb mounting pad kind of sunk down to make carb to hood room.....

Not to sure what they did with that one....


The car did leave very cool for the era......I used to laugh and say the rear bumper is going to hit the gorund....

Not sure what the rear tires were on it but XS-11's were "big tires" back then.....
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As I remember, the amount of races that car won is surprising because it's really not that many. Allen won a bunch of the high profile races and the car became famous, though I'll never forget how it looked when it launched.

Now that I'm seeing various pictures of the car, some probably dumb questions are coming to mind.

Allen is listed as "driver". Who actually owned the car when it was being raced? Allen? Briggs? Truppi?

Is that really a fiber optic light monitor I see on the front fender in the last shot you posted?

How did T-K make that kind of horsepower with that ridiculous flat intake manifold? The story of why those intakes were on the LS6s is pretty interesting in itself.
S/S was allowed any OEM or aftermarket intake back then. Sheet metal intakes didnt become allowed until many years later. Im almost sure they used an Edelbrock Taranchula (sp?) intake but its been a long time ago since I looked at the car in the staging lanes. Kenny Koonce Sr. ran the same type car as an A/SA before he ran his Camaro and used the legal replacement high rise intake and it fit under the hood OK. Im probably wrong but I think the tires were 11.5 wide. The rear fenders looked slightly bowed out to me. This was before tubbing the wheel wells and narowed rears were allowed.

P.S. I just found an article in the December 1970 issue of Super Stock magazine on Ray Allens car. The picture of the engine dosent show the inake very well with the big air cleaner base in the way but it looks like a GM Hi rise intake from a 66-69 427 Camaro or big car. I thought for sure they had an Edelbrock intake on it when I saw it but that was 41 years ago....LOL. The carb is facing straight in the OEM position instead of on an angle. No mention of the rear tire size but are M&H's for sure. Best E.T. was 11.21 @ 123 MPH.

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