Pure Stock at divisionals, why not?

cicero819 · 08-07-2011, 02:16 PM

Instead of Pure Stock, this new series will be call SHOWROOM STOCK, this for the person who wants to compete at Divisional Meets, not at a bracket race(not that the're something wrong with bracket, but just want to move up). Terry, it would be advisable to tow with a trailer if you're far from home but not a prerequisite for running. I'm going to see if there is some interest from tracks owners. These car woulf not compete against Stock eliminator, this would be a showroom Stock only with tire change only allowed.Claude

X-TECH MAN · 08-07-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cicero819

Instead of Pure Stock, this new series will be call SHOWROOM STOCK, this for the person who wants to compete at Divisional Meets, not at a bracket race(not that the're something wrong with bracket, but just want to move up). Terry, it would be advisable to tow with a trailer if you're far from home but not a prerequisite for running. I'm going to see if there is some interest from tracks owners. These car woulf not compete against Stock eliminator, this would be a showroom Stock only with tire change only allowed.Claude

Lots of luck.

John Kelley · 08-07-2011, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cicero819

this for the person who wants to compete at Divisional Meets, not at a bracket race(not that the're something wrong with bracket, but just want to move up).

SO.......you want to create a NEW class so you can "move up" ???
How absurd !!
Want to "move up" then run an existing class !!!
Divisionals don't need anymore classes.....

cicero819 · 08-07-2011, 07:42 PM

Absurd in which way John, because of the idea or just because you don't agree. Look,how about you come up with something that will bring possibly new cars and maybe some interest in a sport that has been neglected for the past ten years or more. Well I've been attending many Divisionals and found alot of downtime between classes. Think about it " Showroom Stock Eliminator" that sounds pretty good to me. Now, where did I put those meds Ed sent me? Claude

Ed Fernandez · 08-07-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cicero819

Absurd in which way John, because of the idea or just because you don't agree. Look,how about you come up with something that will bring possibly new cars and maybe some interest in a sport that has been neglected for the past ten years or more. Well I've been attending many Divisionals and found alot of downtime between classes. Think about it " Showroom Stock Eliminator" that sounds pretty good to me. Now, where did I put those meds Ed sent me? Claude

Claude,any class you add that's performance orientated will require teching and specs.
Like some have said,we dont need any more classes.
Btw people,the meds I sent Claude are called "reality pills".:>):>):>)

cicero819 · 08-07-2011, 09:01 PM

Thanks Ed, I've taken two like you've prescribed and I now will be sleeping much better. Thank You Dr Reality. Please check my new web site that I hope to have running soon. www.showroomstock.com and the new Tshirts will be available at Indy. Two great quotes:Just because It hasn't been done yet, doesn't mean it's impossible and whether you think you can or can't you're right.( Henry Ford) Claude

John Kelley · 08-07-2011, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cicero819

Absurd in which way John, because of the idea or just because you don't agree. Look,how about you come up with something that will bring possibly new cars and maybe some interest in a sport that has been neglected for the past ten years or more. Well I've been attending many Divisionals and found alot of downtime between classes. Think about it " Showroom Stock Eliminator" that sounds pretty good to me. Now, where did I put those meds Ed sent me? Claude

With ELEVEN classes at a divisional no more are needed !!
It takes forever to run the throttle stop classes alone !! And then the needless "bike" bracket class.
And you want to add a class with no tech or teardownns ??
Like no one would ever cheat ?...................... HA !!

cicero819 · 08-07-2011, 11:23 PM

Considering that the owners of the track are the one who have to guarantee the whole purse and have to kick some money up to NHRA, how long before they say , thank you but no thank you for putting on a divisional. Think about it.

NWDragracing · 08-07-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cicero819

Considering that the owners of the track are the one who have to guarantee the whole purse and have to kick some money up to NHRA, how long before they say , thank you but no thank you for putting on a divisional. Think about it.

Claude, it appears that you like to stir the pot coming up with controversial postings. Everybody is trying to make their point on why it is not going to happen. The current eliminators and classes are complex enough as they are. You just have to smell the roses and see that in the NHRA realm, you will never see a Pure Stock class created, and will not see a worst light rule implemented either. I am not implying that everything is perfect in the NHRA world. However, if you are not happy with the current system and rules, you have the option of the local bracket or similar races. If NHRA was to cater to everyone's desires and wishes, the rule book would have over 1000 pages.

Dan Fahey · 08-08-2011, 01:54 AM

Showroom Stock not a bad idea.
Worked ok in the early 70's for a while.
Until the Cheater Grinds forced a change in the rules in 1974.

Showroom Stock would work better running by itself or competing in the Independent S/SS Series. Set up about 8/10 Classes and see what develops. Class Rules and Rank would have to be very clear and everything is factory. Gears and tires, OK.
No Headers, Trick Converters, Cams.

But think it would attract a lot of new racers. Especially the new GM, Chrysler and Ford factory V8 and V6 hotrods.

To compete in IHRA Division and National think they should be Pure Stock/Stock Legal as the rules are well defined and not too hard to upgrade to.

Not sure a Showroom Stocker owner would be willing to go through a tear down at Divisional and National races. But would be an incentive to go to the next step,

08-07-2011, 02:16 PM	#1
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not? Instead of Pure Stock, this new series will be call SHOWROOM STOCK, this for the person who wants to compete at Divisional Meets, not at a bracket race(not that the're something wrong with bracket, but just want to move up). Terry, it would be advisable to tow with a trailer if you're far from home but not a prerequisite for running. I'm going to see if there is some interest from tracks owners. These car woulf not compete against Stock eliminator, this would be a showroom Stock only with tire change only allowed.Claude

08-07-2011, 07:42 PM	#4
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not? Absurd in which way John, because of the idea or just because you don't agree. Look,how about you come up with something that will bring possibly new cars and maybe some interest in a sport that has been neglected for the past ten years or more. Well I've been attending many Divisionals and found alot of downtime between classes. Think about it " Showroom Stock Eliminator" that sounds pretty good to me. Now, where did I put those meds Ed sent me? Claude

08-07-2011, 09:01 PM	#6
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not? Thanks Ed, I've taken two like you've prescribed and I now will be sleeping much better. Thank You Dr Reality. Please check my new web site that I hope to have running soon. www.showroomstock.com and the new Tshirts will be available at Indy. Two great quotes:Just because It hasn't been done yet, doesn't mean it's impossible and whether you think you can or can't you're right.( Henry Ford) Claude

08-07-2011, 11:23 PM	#8
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not? Considering that the owners of the track are the one who have to guarantee the whole purse and have to kick some money up to NHRA, how long before they say , thank you but no thank you for putting on a divisional. Think about it.

08-08-2011, 01:54 AM	#10
Dan Fahey VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,128 Likes: 1,084 Liked 184 Times in 113 Posts	Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not? Showroom Stock not a bad idea. Worked ok in the early 70's for a while. Until the Cheater Grinds forced a change in the rules in 1974. Showroom Stock would work better running by itself or competing in the Independent S/SS Series. Set up about 8/10 Classes and see what develops. Class Rules and Rank would have to be very clear and everything is factory. Gears and tires, OK. No Headers, Trick Converters, Cams. But think it would attract a lot of new racers. Especially the new GM, Chrysler and Ford factory V8 and V6 hotrods. To compete in IHRA Division and National think they should be Pure Stock/Stock Legal as the rules are well defined and not too hard to upgrade to. Not sure a Showroom Stocker owner would be willing to go through a tear down at Divisional and National races. But would be an incentive to go to the next step,