Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by Tod Lane

I miss spoke, the car is actually a 1994 with the 4.6....

The question I have is the 4.6 capable of making this 3800 lb behemoth run under the index. I can get the car for nothing or next to it...
What would it take to get under index. Gears, convertor... WHere would you get some headers ?

Your 94 could run :
......Q/SA @ 3570 w/driver.
Or, R/SA @ 3780 ( natural class)
Or, T/SA @ 3990 lbs.


This engine has me wondering.
I saw another thread about the 96-98 Mustang GT and I do not know the differnce between the 94 Lincoln 4.6 and the 96-98 Mustang 4.6.

Anyway, the concensus of the thread was that the 96-98 Mustang makes a good Pure Stocker. Not sure about an NHRA Stocker tho.

Not sure on this, but I was thinking the '90-99 Town Car was based on the Panther chassis. (Crown Vic)
If so, then there is where you would look for headers.

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by ALMACK

Your 94 could run :
......Q/SA @ 3570 w/driver.
Or, R/SA @ 3780 ( natural class)
Or, T/SA @ 3990 lbs.


This engine has me wondering.
I saw another thread about the 96-98 Mustang GT and I do not know the differnce between the 94 Lincoln 4.6 and the 96-98 Mustang 4.6.

Anyway, the concensus of the thread was that the 96-98 Mustang makes a good Pure Stocker. Not sure about an NHRA Stocker tho.

Not sure on this, but I was thinking the '90-99 Town Car was based on the Panther chassis. (Crown Vic)
If so, then there is where you would look for headers.

Problem with IHRA pure stock. The weight breaks stop at I/PS, which is a 16.00 break. This car is way above that. These engines "should" be basically the same as the 96-98 Mustang? This is the 2 valve engine. Ford went to the 3 valve in 1999, I believe.

As my partner Tod says, "we can probably get the car for next to nothing". If we can't do anything with it. I'll just strip it out and sell the shell for scrap.

Yeah, it would at the least need headers, a converter and a posi unit and some gear. I have a set of wheels, just need a set of front tires and a set of slicks. If we end up with it, probably just do a simple tune up on it, check over for safety, brakes and such. Just take it to one of the local strips, see just how far off it is. I'll take it somewhere and weigh it first. Give me an idea of what we're up against.

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by Robert Swartz

Problem with IHRA pure stock. The weight breaks stop at I/PS, which is a 16.00 break. This car is way above that. These engines "should" be basically the same as the 96-98 Mustang? This is the 2 valve engine. Ford went to the 3 valve in 1999, I believe.

As my partner Tod says, "we can probably get the car for next to nothing". If we can't do anything with it. I'll just strip it out and sell the shell for scrap.

Yeah, it would at the least need headers, a converter and a posi unit and some gear. I have a set of wheels, just need a set of front tires and a set of slicks. If we end up with it, probably just do a simple tune up on it, check over for safety, brakes and such. Just take it to one of the local strips, see just how far off it is. I'll take it somewhere and weigh it first. Give me an idea of what we're up against.

Robert:
I knew the Town car was not a good choice for IHRA Pure Stock.
As an NHRA Stocker or IHRA EFI Stocker I would think the TCar would need a 4.56 gear, a 4000 + stall , lightweight wheels/tires, lightweight brake rotors, electric fans, and special long duration cams. I would say that 2V could rev, so that would be the key.

You ought to try the combo and let us all know if the car gets close to the index.

[Billy Nees]

Looks like a few of you have done some detective work on this Lincoln and I'd say "Go for it!". It really can't be a bad combo, if it fits T it should run the index. How fast will a Pure Stock Mustang go?

[Robert Swartz]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Looks like a few of you have done some detective work on this Lincoln and I'd say "Go for it!". It really can't be a bad combo, if it fits T it should run the index. How fast will a Pure Stock Mustang go?

Billy,

Hinges on how little we can get the car for. Have to chuckle a little here, just never thought of a 4 door Lincoln as a "race car"! If we do this, correct me if my initial thinking is wrong. I figure the minimum I need to run the car, headers, I haven't researched this at all. Does anyone make headers for a Lincoln? Get a posi unit, if the car doesn't have one, or a mini-spool. A gear set, this has an 8.8, as suggested by Almack, a 4:88 or deeper gear, suggestions for a 4000 lb car? As mentioned, I have a set of wheels. Anyone in the Indiana-Kentucky-Ohio area got any old used fronts or slicks with some life left in them that you don't want to retire off of, LOL!That'd be enough for me to take it to the track.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Robert Swartz

Billy,

Hinges on how little we can get the car for. Have to chuckle a little here, just never thought of a 4 door Lincoln as a "race car"! If we do this, correct me if my initial thinking is wrong. I figure the minimum I need to run the car, headers, I haven't researched this at all. Does anyone make headers for a Lincoln? Get a posi unit, if the car doesn't have one, or a mini-spool. A gear set, this has an 8.8, as suggested by Almack, a 4:88 or deeper gear, suggestions for a 4000 lb car? As mentioned, I have a set of wheels. Anyone in the Indiana-Kentucky-Ohio area got any old used fronts or slicks with some life left in them that you don't want to retire off of, LOL!That'd be enough for me to take it to the track.

OK, let's start from the top. Somewhere in this thread I thought that it was said that you can get the car for "next to nothing". Even scrap it has to be worth $400 or $500 bucks. Where can you get a car that runs (I'm Assuming that it runs) for less than that? My biggest concern would be getting the stock ECU to do what I need it to do. I'm pretty sure that it controls not only the engine but the AOD trans too. 8.8 stuff is all over the place if you look, that's not a problem. To start, just find some shorty Mustang headers and make them fit then put some kind of down pipe on them, it doesn't have to start out pretty. Make sure that the engine is sound and the car is safe and just take it out. Again, my biggest concerns are the ECU and the AOD.

[7423]

The ECU and the AODE will be just fine with a Tweecer. This is an adjustable chip of sorts that plugs into the factory ECU and changes the factory tune up. Does everything a FAST or other after EFI control would do plus change your WOT shift points. I have run one in my car since the beginning. I had a few issues with it but they (slowly) made the repairs and treated my fairly. Adding fuel to create a 13.0 AFR and firming up the shifts points (I ran the AODE in drive) equaled a .70 et improvement. All this on a 130,000 mile 5.0 that I never had the heads off of.

[Tod Lane]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

OK, let's start from the top. Somewhere in this thread I thought that it was said that you can get the car for "next to nothing". Even scrap it has to be worth $400 or $500 bucks. Where can you get a car that runs (I'm Assuming that it runs) for less than that? My biggest concern would be getting the stock ECU to do what I need it to do. I'm pretty sure that it controls not only the engine but the AOD trans too. 8.8 stuff is all over the place if you look, that's not a problem. To start, just find some shorty Mustang headers and make them fit then put some kind of down pipe on them, it doesn't have to start out pretty. Make sure that the engine is sound and the car is safe and just take it out. Again, my biggest concerns are the ECU and the AOD.

Actually the car is moms, I can get it cheap. Dad doesn't want her endangering the world anymore with her driving... It starts runs and moves just fine.