Original hemi dart information

hemitime · 08-18-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hemi Moose

Do you know the racers names or have any other info or stats on these two cars, was this one of them Frank Elliott's 68 Hemi Barracuda.

Yes this is an original bo29 4spd car from ontario as raced by Frank Elliott,originally bought in Canada,the other car is an automatic car originally owned by Wayne Burke from Niagara Falls also bought new in Canada ,it was then then converted to stick and raced by Nick Minialoff under the drag dimensions sponsorship,then Beatty and Woods,and finally Brian Smith,the same Beatty and Woods that owned the motown missile 72 cuda.

68hemiss · 08-19-2011, 12:16 AM

Daryl/Paul,
You know I was looking at the pictures that I have of the Manhatten Speed Shop Dart and I noticed something. I always assumed that the car was in primer because the pics are B&W but the car is painted - as delivered the hood and fenders were black & blue gelcoat - the fenders are painted. Many of the early cars Shirley Shahan, Bill Tanner and others were originally shipped without hoods - you will see some pictures where the hoods look black. The hoods were shpped whenthey were available. Note that the Manhatten Dart has a black hood. Possibly an early car?? Daryl are you smiling yet? .
I know that someone said that the car was a SS/B but I have seen nowhere where the car actually had a class designation on it. I think that this is a car that bears further investigation.
Mark J

Paul Ceasrine · 08-19-2011, 03:02 PM

Not a BO29,,,,,,,

Another Canada Barracuda,,,,,,,

hemitime · 08-19-2011, 05:34 PM

Yes,both barracudas are still in Canada .

bluegrassx · 08-21-2011, 12:05 AM

Billy Schmaltz. "Ready Mix Concrete" Barracuda from Osgood, IN.

Frito · 08-21-2011, 04:04 AM

"Mountian Hemi" owned by Doug Hurley from Grundy. Virginia. His brother Harold Hurley was driving in this pic.

Liteweight · 08-22-2011, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68hemiss

Daryl/Paul,
You know I was looking at the pictures that I have of the Manhatten Speed Shop Dart and I noticed something. I always assumed that the car was in primer because the pics are B&W but the car is painted - as delivered the hood and fenders were black & blue gelcoat - the fenders are painted. Many of the early cars Shirley Shahan, Bill Tanner and others were originally shipped without hoods - you will see some pictures where the hoods look black. The hoods were shpped whenthey were available. Note that the Manhatten Dart has a black hood. Possibly an early car?? Daryl are you smiling yet? .
I know that someone said that the car was a SS/B but I have seen nowhere where the car actually had a class designation on it. I think that this is a car that bears further investigation.
Mark J

Mark
I'm up to it. Where can we start??? Can you either post the pix you have on it or send them to my personal email please? Posted might be a better option, as the pix might jog someones memory.
As far as smiling yet, there have been alot of leads we have pursued, & until I get a lil more info that is promising, I'll wait. But believe me when the time comes, you won't be able to wipe the smile off my face .

liteweight

Paul Ceasrine · 08-22-2011, 06:23 PM

Daryl,

The problem disecting the Manhattan Speed Shop Dart.
No clear photo's of a window class identification.
Decals with Hurst, but no B & M Transmission decals.

Photo's of it from 1968, versus Charlie Castaldo @ New York Nationals Speedway, versus Charlie @ Englishtown, and versus the Motion Performance 1968 Camaro in A/MP @ Westhampton (Suffolk County)
Drag Strip (all 4-speed cars),,,,,,

pc

tommy d · 08-23-2011, 05:30 PM

Smaltz's car is a real one? I think he is still bracket racing that car at Muncie Dragway!!!!

68hemiss · 08-23-2011, 11:12 PM

Guys,
My scanner is not working at the moment - ben really busy - heading to Indy next week for the U.S Nationals. I have a pic of the Manhatten Speed Dart running Ed Miller at New York National (S/S Nationals) and aginst the Motion Camaro - can only see the front end - but I know it is this car. Paul, that only applies if they were running Class in those pics - eliminations or time trials would mean it could be an automatic - and the Auto cars had Hurst shifters - so it is still a possibility. I wonder if the old Super Stock Nationals programs had entry lists like the programs for NHRA national events? If so, does anyome have one from the 1968 S/S Nationals that lists a Dart from NY?
Mark J

08-19-2011, 12:16 AM	#2
68hemiss Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 167 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Original hemi dart information Daryl/Paul, You know I was looking at the pictures that I have of the Manhatten Speed Shop Dart and I noticed something. I always assumed that the car was in primer because the pics are B&W but the car is painted - as delivered the hood and fenders were black & blue gelcoat - the fenders are painted. Many of the early cars Shirley Shahan, Bill Tanner and others were originally shipped without hoods - you will see some pictures where the hoods look black. The hoods were shpped whenthey were available. Note that the Manhatten Dart has a black hood. Possibly an early car?? Daryl are you smiling yet? . I know that someone said that the car was a SS/B but I have seen nowhere where the car actually had a class designation on it. I think that this is a car that bears further investigation. Mark J

08-19-2011, 03:02 PM	#3
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Not a BO29,,,,,,, Another Canada Barracuda,,,,,,,

08-19-2011, 05:34 PM	#4
hemitime Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: canada Posts: 118 Likes: 7 Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Yes,both barracudas are still in Canada .

08-21-2011, 12:05 AM	#5
bluegrassx Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 68 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Billy Schmaltz. "Ready Mix Concrete" Barracuda from Osgood, IN.

08-21-2011, 04:04 AM	#6
Frito Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 454 Likes: 151 Liked 120 Times in 41 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information "Mountian Hemi" owned by Doug Hurley from Grundy. Virginia. His brother Harold Hurley was driving in this pic. __________________

08-22-2011, 06:23 PM	#8
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Daryl, The problem disecting the Manhattan Speed Shop Dart. No clear photo's of a window class identification. Decals with Hurst, but no B & M Transmission decals. Photo's of it from 1968, versus Charlie Castaldo @ New York Nationals Speedway, versus Charlie @ Englishtown, and versus the Motion Performance 1968 Camaro in A/MP @ Westhampton (Suffolk County) Drag Strip (all 4-speed cars),,,,,, pc

08-23-2011, 05:30 PM	#9
tommy d Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 830 Likes: 1,627 Liked 359 Times in 135 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Smaltz's car is a real one? I think he is still bracket racing that car at Muncie Dragway!!!!

08-23-2011, 11:12 PM	#10
68hemiss Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 167 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Original hemi dart information Guys, My scanner is not working at the moment - ben really busy - heading to Indy next week for the U.S Nationals. I have a pic of the Manhatten Speed Dart running Ed Miller at New York National (S/S Nationals) and aginst the Motion Camaro - can only see the front end - but I know it is this car. Paul, that only applies if they were running Class in those pics - eliminations or time trials would mean it could be an automatic - and the Auto cars had Hurst shifters - so it is still a possibility. I wonder if the old Super Stock Nationals programs had entry lists like the programs for NHRA national events? If so, does anyome have one from the 1968 S/S Nationals that lists a Dart from NY? Mark J