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Old 09-13-2011, 12:54 PM   #1
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Art, hows ECU are you running? Joe
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:57 PM   #2
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Art, hows ECU are you running? Joe
When I find the problem I won't have to post it. You will hear me cheering for at least 2000 miles.

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Let us know what you find out.
I'm using a ViPec V44 almost the same as Autronics but with a lot more options The guy that built the Autronics (Ray Hall) branched out on his own. Excellent customer support, they don't think it's in the ECU. I sent them programs and datalogs. But they are sending me another to try, if I don't get it solved in a couple of days.
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:41 AM   #3
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Art, this is probably a dumb question, but does it still have the lock up disc in the torque converter?
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:48 AM   #4
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Art, this is probably a dumb question, but does it still have the lock up disc in the torque converter?
No lockup in converter. And I changed the converter That was my first suspect.
The car ran fine in the past. So I don't want to get way off base with adjustments.
I've tried to raise/lower fuel pressure, raise/lower fuel injector flow, raise/lower ignition timing. All with no improvements.
Right now I'm chasing the possibility that my LS1 coils could have been installed with reverse polarity. And when I activated the 2 step function in the ECU I might have damaged them. If they are not the problem the only thing I have left is to change the crank and cam pickups.
I've leaked down checked the motor looked at the top end for cam wear etc. Gone through the fuel system. Checked timing to see if the timing belt jumped a tooth (could not have because it would have bent valves) Checked the plug wires, changed all the plugs etc.
I hope I'm barking up the right tree with the coils.
One thing that seems to improve it a little is putting a muffler on the collector. I'm hoping that putting some back pressure on it. Allows a weaker spark to burn more mixture in the chamber and make a bit more power.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:23 AM   #5
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Art,
Getting worse with heat and better when cool.... I still think Coil Temp affect has to be something in the electical controls.. Coils or sensors that time the electrical cycles being bad. I Still think the 2 step circuits in your computer are not working correctly. I would talk to the guy that did that and try to get it deactivated...completely. Get it running as a foot brake set up and then go back to the 2 step.
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:33 AM   #6
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Art, the LS1 coil pinout is A= ground, B=low reference to PCM, C=coil control PCM, D=Ign power or B+ The low reference on terminal B is the PCM ground for the coil. Hope this helps. BTW you stated that this all seemed to start after using the launch funtion in the ECU, in what manner does your system limit RPM? does it do Ign. only, fuel only or a combination of these?
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:11 AM   #7
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Getting worse with heat and better when cool.... I still think Coil Temp affect has to be something in the electical controls.. Coils or sensors that time the electrical cycles being bad. I Still think the 2 step circuits in your computer are not working correctly. I would talk to the guy that did that and try to get it deactivated...completely. Get it running as a foot brake set up and then go back to the 2 step.
First I deactivated it in the ecu, then I removed the wiring from it.
I'm trying to get it back to running right without the 2 step. I ran fine before. I had it idling at 1000 rpms, drop it in gear and hold 900 rpms. When that comes back. Then I'll tackle the 2 step.

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Art, the LS1 coil pinout is A= ground, B=low reference to PCM, C=coil control PCM, D=Ign power or B+ The low reference on terminal B is the PCM ground for the coil. Hope this helps. BTW you stated that this all seemed to start after using the launch funtion in the ECU, in what manner does your system limit RPM? does it do Ign. only, fuel only or a combination of these?
The launch control function can cut spark, fuel or timing. I was told for the N/A just to use the spark. It worked flawlessly in neutral but went ballistic when against the converter.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:49 AM   #8
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Art, not sure I would spend any time looking at Crank or cam triggers, as they would just make the engine quit no matter what. Did you get your spark checker if so do you have nice blue spark from all coils? I asked before about MAP sensor... what does it read? Do you have any tuning tables that use the MAP input to change fuel or timing perhaps coil on time based on MAP or fuel enrichment based on MAP sensor? Can you "see" in real time what timing and pulse width is being commanded by the ECU?Also can you view your Crank sensor count in real time, sometimes referred to as Wheel dbug counts?
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