2011 Stock/Super Stock Class Champion

[thomas sheehan]

Originally Posted by art leong

It was structured to give certain racers an advantage or disadvantage.
The fact that you can go more rounds in the combo classes and get less points proves my statement.
Earlier in the year I was told If I didn't like it I should move my car up or down to a more populated class.
As it happens the guy that thought the whole thing up has never read a rule book (maybe another cost saving measure).
I would like to have chased this thing.

But if I ran 16 cars at every event I attended, and won. I still wouldn't even make the top five.

Art.... I agree with you on most points (ex....like more rds in combo gets less points).

HOWEVER... If you read the rules again, you will notice that 17 cars gets you 90 points in the combo. I read this after I entered Maple Grove in GT/IA (2 cars in class got me 85 points). If I would have entered in GT/JA (class I was in for 2 races prior to that event), It would have made it an 18 car combo field (me and other GT/IA racer would have added 2 more to combo class) thus awarding the winner 90 points instead of usual combo 80 points (for less than 17 car field). I could have wrapped up the SS automatic points chase if I would have won that 5 rd race. No one at Vegas could have got 90 points because all the class fields in SS are under 17 cars.

I wish I would have known that prior to the race.

[Mike Carr]

Originally Posted by Axis Racing

Forgive me for my ignorance, but What is a "combo" class?

All classes that have single-car entrants are paired up into one of four Combo Class run-offs, sorted by transmission type. SS/Stick, SS/Auto, Stock/Stick and Stock/Auto (classes where sticks and autos run the same class, example SS/AH, SS Modified classes and FWD Stockers, your transmission determines the class you run). For example, in Las Vegas this weekend:

Automatic Combo
SS/DM 7474 Justin Lamb, Henderson NV, '10 Cobalt 8.896 9.92 -1.024
SS/BM 2807 Darren Breaud, Hohenwald TN, '05 Dodge 8.422 9.36 -0.938
SS/FM 51 Abe Loewen, Regina SK, '98 Grand Am 9.874 10.68 -0.806
SS/TB 7668 Brad Rounds, Reno NV, '02 S-10 9.337 10.12 -0.783
SS/IA 4208 James Caro, Houma LA, '10 Challenger 10.135 10.89 -0.755
SS/NA 6153 Rick Pike, Langley BC, '56 Chevy 11.676 12.36 -0.684
GT/TA 6009 Bob Marshall, Olds AB, '02 S-10 10.120 10.73 -0.610
SS/PA 5482 Sheldon Erfle, Saskatoon SK, '56 Chevy 12.288 12.87 -0.582
SS/CA 7427 Larry Rush, Vernal UT, '69 Camaro 9.642 10.22 -0.578
GT/HA 73 John Winslow Sr, San Jose CA, '65 Coronet 10.710 11.24 -0.530
GT/TB 7267 Larry Scarth, Manhatten Beach CA, '01 S-10 10.724 11.04 -0.316
GT/GA 61 Mark Faul, Tacoma WA, '98 Grand Am 10.776 11.09 -0.314
SS/AM 1 Ryan McClanahan, Alta Loma CA, '08 Cobalt 9.187 9.16 0.027

Stick Combo
SS/H 714E Bob Earleywine, Winchester CA, '69 Camaro 10.187 10.68 -0.493

All those automatic cars will race each other, handicapped off the Class Indexes, first to the stripe wins, like Comp Eliminator. The winner of that Combo will get the lone Wally--the other that showed up get nothing. Sucks, but welcome to the new NHRA.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by thomas sheehan

Art.... I agree with you on most points (ex....like more rds in combo gets less points).

HOWEVER... If you read the rules again, you will notice that 17 cars gets you 90 points in the combo. I read this after I entered Maple Grove in GT/IA (2 cars in class got me 85 points). If I would have entered in GT/JA (class I was in for 2 races prior to that event), It would have made it an 18 car combo field (me and other GT/IA racer would have added 2 more to combo class) thus awarding the winner 90 points instead of usual combo 80 points (for less than 17 car field). I could have wrapped up the SS automatic points chase if I would have won that 5 rd race. No one at Vegas could have got 90 points because all the class fields in SS are under 17 cars.

I wish I would have known that prior to the race.

Tom I understand that. But you would have had to go 5 rounds to make 5 more points than the guy that ran one round. I don't care how good the driver or the car is thats 5 times that something can go wrong. At the Grove years back It rained and I got there a little late. They were running the qualifying round of stock while I was stuck behind a few super gassers (in the field). I really wasn't worried because I was the only car in the class. I had a vacuum line pop off and I didn't run the index. I didn't get to run the eliminator (only 128 cars there were 132). I was not a happy camper. I went to Cecil the next day for some T&T and went. way better than 2 seconds under on the first pass.
So things can happen. Plus the fact that in the combo classes there are cars that completely control their own destiny. If they take a tenth and a half away if you've got 5 in the bank it doesn't hurt.

[thomas sheehan]

I was wrong..... it appears that Todd Patterson snuck in with 6 rd wins for the SS title.
Wes Leopold Jr and Ken Etter had 5 rd wins.

..these are my "unofficial results"....lol

[NewHemi]

I think I know who won Stock Automatic, and also who won Stock Stick, but I am sworn to secrecy, so I can't tell you that the winners in each were the new cars.

David
The New Hemi Guy

[junior barns]

Originally Posted by NewHemi

I think I know who won Stock Automatic, and also who won Stock Stick, but I am sworn to secrecy, so I can't tell you that the winners in each were the new cars.

David
The New Hemi Guy

Stock Stick Charley Downing driving a V or U/S ride I think. Funny his competition was a no show ??? What a way to win!!!

[Dave Casey]

Does Charley get the class win if he didn't run the index ? A few years back didn't you need to run the index or a certain amount under to get the class win ? or has that all changed with the new system ?

[Randall Klein]

Typical half-baked program like the AHFS, implement then explain-modify-change on the fly as racers that are impacted investigate nuances and request answers

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Randall Klein

Typical half-baked program like the AHFS, implement then explain-modify-change on the fly as racers that are impacted investigate nuances and request answers

At last someone that understands!!!!!!
The sole purpose of this was to give out less wallys.
And you have people on here thanking nhra.
PS I have a few slightly used bridges for sale cheap

[Charley Downing]

Junior Paul was not a no show. He was having problems all day with his car. He told me he put a new set of plug wires on after the 1 round qualifying run and did not put the coil wire on all the way and it came off during his burn out when he ran me. The same kind of thing happened to me at the sports nats in Columbus this year. I was pulling out for the class final and my injector rail came loose and fuel was going all over under the hood and I was a no show for the class final . You take a win any way they come to you.

Dave the old .50 under rule was for singles only. When there were two or more cars in a class there was no min. But last year the .50 under was taken away and the class win rule went back to the way it was for 40 plus years all you need a win light.

Example a few years ago at the sports nat in Columbus

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed
3777 Harlan Updike 3137 Brian Seibenick
C1 ****WINNER**** 0.045 14.965 90.85 No Time
T/SA Index: 14.70 (+/-): 0.265 T/SA Index: 14.70 (+/-): 85.299
Qualified: #105 14.944 89.35 #94 14.315 90.61
Trophy run in T/SA and Seibeneck's car appeared to break the axle, the right rear wheel suddenly about a foot or so to the right of its usual location when he hit the throttle. Since it was a head-to-head race, Updike wins the trophy, even though he has yet to run under his index.