Maple Grove 50th Anniversary Stk / SS Series

Dave Casey · 12-07-2011, 04:11 PM

This is a great idea and I compliment Lex and co on considering it.

That being said, everyone's comments have merit, the most being scheduling. having done the ASRA stk/ss schedule myself for a number of years, it is the hardest thing. I suggest that Lex and co look at the schedule and come up with what they can for non conflicting dates and run with it. 5 dates will be tough to find, but your season is a little longer than up in the mass/ny/nh/ct area. Maybe Dave and Lex could run races on the same weekend, one saturday, one sunday.

Michael's comment about points purse I understand, but personnaly i think points brings more cars in than a bigger purse. Some of our best highlights at our ASRA races have been related to points.

Vic, with the expense of racing and the time involved, I don't think you will have a problem with legality issues and street car issues. I only say that because it has not been an issue for us at ASRA. It seems that the racers police themselves pretty well, and that is a good thing.

Hope this happens, any stock/ss race is a good thing

Bob Don · 12-07-2011, 04:27 PM

How about a one weekend combined ECSSSA/ASRA/50th Maple Grove Stock/SS extravaganza? Everyone earns points for their respective series. Have a race on Saturday and one on Sunday with Wallys and big purses.

Don Fardie · 12-07-2011, 09:09 PM

Sounds like a Road Trip to me...

Brian VP · 12-07-2011, 09:22 PM

I think that it would be great to get the ECSSSA and the ASRA together for one weekend. That would be some competition between 2 great organizations.

Michael Beard · 12-08-2011, 05:06 PM

Who exactly are all of these hoards of unknown Pure Stockers and "IHRA cars" that are infiltrating combos in the Northeast?

MikeFicacci · 12-08-2011, 05:12 PM

I don't think we have ever had one of those at the ECSS races.

Pistol Pete · 12-08-2011, 08:38 PM

I'm in agreement with Brian VP. We should get the 2 great organizations together for a race.

ECSSSA vs. ASRA.

The only thing i would suggest: 2 seperate catorgories. Stock vs Stock.
Super Stock vs Super Stock.

I'm sure we can get a good car count in each one.
That would be a "fun" weekend race.

OK Brian, i nominate you to run it.......lol
You & Lee did a Great Job on your Combo in the Hills Race.

Pistol Pete
1374
I/SA

Dave Casey · 12-08-2011, 09:59 PM

Chris,

You need to encourage racers to attend, not discourage them. The racers that only run as you say 1 or 2 association racers per year are the backbone of this sport,they are equally as much racers as are those that go to 30 races a year. Both types are living within their means and desires.

As far as your comment on you only being a crate motor racer, I sure doesn't matter to me, it's a stocker and that is great, in all the associations I have heard of, ihra and nhra cars are both welcome.

The racers that only go to some ,none or an occasional nhra/ihra race make up a large part of the field at our ASRA races. We get 60 cars regularly and had one race with over 70 this year and other years. We have heads up races, and I can honestly say that in the many years that I have been involved, never have we had a protest, or complaint about legal issues. I suggest you work toward promoting these type of races and spend less time trying to find things that could go wrong.

Michael and Mike , I am with you on this, it just is not and issue, if it ever is, I know that Dave will deal with it at the ecsss races and so will we up here at the ASRA races.

Running the ecsss vs asra is a topic that comes up regularly, Dave will tell you , the schedule is the biggest issue and it is a big one. We could have one heck of a time doing it, but man ,it just ain't easy. Dave has talked about it with our board members more than once.

Chris1529 · 12-09-2011, 08:45 AM

I don't wish to discourage anyone from racing. I know how expensive it is to run a car, and I have to tow at least two hours to get to a track with mine. I want to encourage anyone that has a class car to support all the association races they can, but at the same time, I feel they should attend an NHRA/IHRA race or two if they can as well. If they want to race a class car, or say they race a class car, they need to enter it at a race sanctioned by the organization that they belong to.

robzneed4speed · 12-11-2011, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Don

How about a one weekend combined ECSSSA/ASRA/50th Maple Grove Stock/SS extravaganza? Everyone earns points for their respective series. Have a race on Saturday and one on Sunday with Wallys and big purses.

I'm there!

12-07-2011, 04:11 PM	#1
Dave Casey VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hampden, MA Posts: 1,201 Likes: 233 Liked 774 Times in 164 Posts	Re: Maple Grove 50th Anniversary Stk / SS Series This is a great idea and I compliment Lex and co on considering it. That being said, everyone's comments have merit, the most being scheduling. having done the ASRA stk/ss schedule myself for a number of years, it is the hardest thing. I suggest that Lex and co look at the schedule and come up with what they can for non conflicting dates and run with it. 5 dates will be tough to find, but your season is a little longer than up in the mass/ny/nh/ct area. Maybe Dave and Lex could run races on the same weekend, one saturday, one sunday. Michael's comment about points purse I understand, but personnaly i think points brings more cars in than a bigger purse. Some of our best highlights at our ASRA races have been related to points. Vic, with the expense of racing and the time involved, I don't think you will have a problem with legality issues and street car issues. I only say that because it has not been an issue for us at ASRA. It seems that the racers police themselves pretty well, and that is a good thing. Hope this happens, any stock/ss race is a good thing __________________ Dave Casey 1330 STK

12-07-2011, 04:27 PM	#2
Bob Don VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Greater Boston Posts: 1,495 Likes: 1,114 Liked 900 Times in 191 Posts	Re: Maple Grove 50th Anniversary Stk / SS Series How about a one weekend combined ECSSSA/ASRA/50th Maple Grove Stock/SS extravaganza? Everyone earns points for their respective series. Have a race on Saturday and one on Sunday with Wallys and big purses. __________________ Bob Don 128 SS

12-07-2011, 09:09 PM	#3
Don Fardie Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Lakeville, Ma Posts: 253 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Maple Grove 50th Anniversary Stk / SS Series Sounds like a Road Trip to me... __________________ Don Fardie 1582 F/S B/G

12-07-2011, 09:22 PM	#4
Brian VP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 144 Likes: 0 Liked 8 Times in 1 Post	Re: Maple Grove 50th Anniversary Stk / SS Series I think that it would be great to get the ECSSSA and the ASRA together for one weekend. That would be some competition between 2 great organizations. __________________ Brian Van Poppel 1682 SS

12-08-2011, 05:06 PM	#5
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Maple Grove 50th Anniversary Stk / SS Series Who exactly are all of these hoards of unknown Pure Stockers and "IHRA cars" that are infiltrating combos in the Northeast? __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

12-08-2011, 05:12 PM	#6
MikeFicacci Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 241 Likes: 1 Liked 19 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Maple Grove 50th Anniversary Stk / SS Series I don't think we have ever had one of those at the ECSS races. __________________ Mike Ficacci Stk 1010

12-08-2011, 08:38 PM	#7
Pistol Pete VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Punta Gorda Isles, Fl. Posts: 1,626 Likes: 3,397 Liked 779 Times in 209 Posts	Re: Maple Grove 50th Anniversary Stk / SS Series I'm in agreement with Brian VP. We should get the 2 great organizations together for a race. ECSSSA vs. ASRA. The only thing i would suggest: 2 seperate catorgories. Stock vs Stock. Super Stock vs Super Stock. I'm sure we can get a good car count in each one. That would be a "fun" weekend race. OK Brian, i nominate you to run it.......lol You & Lee did a Great Job on your Combo in the Hills Race. Pistol Pete 1374 I/SA

12-08-2011, 09:59 PM	#8
Dave Casey VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hampden, MA Posts: 1,201 Likes: 233 Liked 774 Times in 164 Posts	Re: Maple Grove 50th Anniversary Stk / SS Series Chris, You need to encourage racers to attend, not discourage them. The racers that only run as you say 1 or 2 association racers per year are the backbone of this sport,they are equally as much racers as are those that go to 30 races a year. Both types are living within their means and desires. As far as your comment on you only being a crate motor racer, I sure doesn't matter to me, it's a stocker and that is great, in all the associations I have heard of, ihra and nhra cars are both welcome. The racers that only go to some ,none or an occasional nhra/ihra race make up a large part of the field at our ASRA races. We get 60 cars regularly and had one race with over 70 this year and other years. We have heads up races, and I can honestly say that in the many years that I have been involved, never have we had a protest, or complaint about legal issues. I suggest you work toward promoting these type of races and spend less time trying to find things that could go wrong. Michael and Mike , I am with you on this, it just is not and issue, if it ever is, I know that Dave will deal with it at the ecsss races and so will we up here at the ASRA races. Running the ecsss vs asra is a topic that comes up regularly, Dave will tell you , the schedule is the biggest issue and it is a big one. We could have one heck of a time doing it, but man ,it just ain't easy. Dave has talked about it with our board members more than once. __________________ Dave Casey 1330 STK

12-09-2011, 08:45 AM	#9
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Maple Grove 50th Anniversary Stk / SS Series I don't wish to discourage anyone from racing. I know how expensive it is to run a car, and I have to tow at least two hours to get to a track with mine. I want to encourage anyone that has a class car to support all the association races they can, but at the same time, I feel they should attend an NHRA/IHRA race or two if they can as well. If they want to race a class car, or say they race a class car, they need to enter it at a race sanctioned by the organization that they belong to. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350