Stock seat clarification please

Dave Casey · 12-10-2011, 06:45 PM

My car regularly goes over 130 and I don't want the seat rule changed

I take the responsibility to make sure my seat is secured and my belts are tight and my safety equipment correct and I am more confident with the factory seat than many of the aftermarket seats that are often mounted poorly. Looking at some of these seats makes me realize that weight is the primary reason for installing them, not safety. Sure there are some good ones, but not many are safer than a good stock one.

Andrew Hill · 12-10-2011, 07:30 PM

1970 camaro seat
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/211898...ro#21189830011

Aftermarket seat
http://www.jegs.com/p/Scat/Procar-Pr...68352/10002/-1

Would a seat like the second one as a replacement really detract from the stock look? They seem to be made a lot better than the originals

Bob Mulry · 12-10-2011, 07:37 PM

Yak,

You are wasting your time talking to a bunch of Johnny come lately, no name strokes who want to mold Stock Eliminator into their vision.........

Valve springs, cams, rocker arms, transmissions, brakes, pistons, rods, pans, wheelie bars, fuel cells, trunk mounted batteries, any rear end, 2 steps, 3 steps, 4 steps (I lost count), aluminum heads, larger replacement carbs, clutch-less transmissions with slipper clutches and now seats (I know that I missed a lot of rule enhancements)..........

How about that dangerous window glass that should be replaced by Lexan or those dangerous hoods that should be replaced with fiberglass because they are only held in place by a 40 year old hood latch??????????????

When will you guys stop screwing up Stock???????????

You don't like the rules, take a hike and go to another eliminator and change that rather than ruining Stock.......

I am sick and tired of all of the self-serving, know nothing, no name strokes that showed up the day before yesterday ruining Stock.......

Chad Rhodes · 12-11-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

Yak,

You are wasting your time talking to a bunch of Johnny come lately, no name strokes who want to mold Stock Eliminator into their vision.........

Valve springs, cams, rocker arms, transmissions, brakes, pistons, rods, pans, wheelie bars, fuel cells, trunk mounted batteries, any rear end, 2 steps, 3 steps, 4 steps (I lost count), aluminum heads, larger replacement carbs, clutch-less transmissions with slipper clutches and now seats (I know that I missed a lot of rule enhancements)..........

How about that dangerous window glass that should be replaced by Lexan or those dangerous hoods that should be replaced with fiberglass because they are only held in place by a 40 year old hood latch??????????????

When will you guys stop screwing up Stock???????????

You don't like the rules, take a hike and go to another eliminator and change that rather than ruining Stock.......

I am sick and tired of all of the self-serving, know nothing, no name strokes that showed up the day before yesterday ruining Stock.......

Seats is not changing stock into someone else's vision. It is a legit safety issue, and if you want to play dumb go right ahead. Guess what, you're going to see parachutes on stockers in just a few months here, because they are going in the 8's at 150+. That ought to make your head explode. Bob, stock has evolved alot since my dad set a national record back in 66, with his 65 corvette he drove every day. Some of the changes have been good, some have not. But racers continued to push the envelope, and things were legalized. Some out of safety, some out of necessity, some for no good reason at all. It sounds like by your method of thinking, you'd prefer us all to be driving cars with no roll bars, just a lap belt, and 7" cheater slicks. As much as a lot of wish certain things were different, we are where we are. And where we are is cars capable of running 8's, with very little weight in them, on 9" tires. The first time some checkbook racer who has no experience with such a car drops the anchor not to break out and ends up in his competitors door, its going to be a disaster. I pray we never find out how bad it could be. Changing seats is not a weight issue in my mind, its a safety issue. If people are so concerned about the weight, start weighing rear percentage stockers ( like they used to in SS). I just can't fathom the level of ignorance it takes to honestly WANT to make things more dangerous than they have to be, with no major changes to the cars.

PS your comment about the hoods is ridiculous, although I did see at hood latch fail on a 69 camaro at the Sportsnationals in Belle Rose. I hope the driver had a full face helmet, because there was glass everywhere.

Peter Ash · 12-11-2011, 01:18 PM

Special hood, special suspension, special steering, special tires, special brakes, special cylinder heads, special rockerarms, special engine block, special intake manifold, . My mint restored STOCK 1970 AAR Cuda.

My Drag Pak is much safer and waaaay more relaxed to drive at speed!!

Peter Ash

Mickey Whaley · 12-11-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Ash

Special hood, special suspension, special steering, special tires, special brakes, special cylinder heads, special rockerarms, special engine block, special intake manifold, . My mint restored STOCK 1970 AAR Cuda.

My Drag Pak is much safer and waaaay more relaxed to drive at speed!!

Peter Ash

Did they get a hold of you peter?

Bob Mulry · 12-11-2011, 09:28 PM

Pure Stock Eliminator in IHRA is what NHRA Stock Eliminator was 30 years ago..........

Maybe after Stock evolves into Super Stock, and that will happen the way it's going, NHRA can copy IHRA and start all over again with a true Stock Eliminator????????????

Mickey Whaley · 12-11-2011, 09:44 PM

where is the violyn same ol

Mark Yacavone · 12-10-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by clutch man

let me know when you get out of fairy tail land? weight? what 30 pds like mark said they already take every other spring out , tight belts we all do that hopefully? They are all mounted hopefully? ARE they better than a real racing seat........ HELL NO!!!!!!

"I've taken every other spring out of >>>>back <<<<<seats to lighten then "

Beyond that, I'm through with keyboard racers or three time tiddly winks world champions

eddie c · 12-10-2011, 07:44 PM

First off,this is an honest to goodness situation that I saw with my own eyes. A number of years ago I had a buddy in stock eliminator that
took some parts to a shop to have them chemically cleaned( if you know what I mean) anyway there was a set of completely de-upholestered
Camaro front seats there for chemically cleaning . Both seats were
sitting in front of me with a tag with the customers name on them.(Yes, he raced at the same track as I did) Now I dont know how much weight was removed from them,but they definately came back with less metal on them. Were the seats compromised as
far as safety,dont know,but how far does it go? If safe lightweight racing
are allowed hopefully no one will try and modify them even further.

12-10-2011, 06:45 PM	#1
Dave Casey VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hampden, MA Posts: 1,202 Likes: 233 Liked 797 Times in 165 Posts	Re: Stock seat clarification please My car regularly goes over 130 and I don't want the seat rule changed I take the responsibility to make sure my seat is secured and my belts are tight and my safety equipment correct and I am more confident with the factory seat than many of the aftermarket seats that are often mounted poorly. Looking at some of these seats makes me realize that weight is the primary reason for installing them, not safety. Sure there are some good ones, but not many are safer than a good stock one. __________________ Dave Casey 1330 STK

12-10-2011, 07:37 PM	#3
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,016 Likes: 57 Liked 320 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Stock seat clarification please Yak, You are wasting your time talking to a bunch of Johnny come lately, no name strokes who want to mold Stock Eliminator into their vision......... Valve springs, cams, rocker arms, transmissions, brakes, pistons, rods, pans, wheelie bars, fuel cells, trunk mounted batteries, any rear end, 2 steps, 3 steps, 4 steps (I lost count), aluminum heads, larger replacement carbs, clutch-less transmissions with slipper clutches and now seats (I know that I missed a lot of rule enhancements).......... How about that dangerous window glass that should be replaced by Lexan or those dangerous hoods that should be replaced with fiberglass because they are only held in place by a 40 year old hood latch?????????????? When will you guys stop screwing up Stock??????????? You don't like the rules, take a hike and go to another eliminator and change that rather than ruining Stock....... I am sick and tired of all of the self-serving, know nothing, no name strokes that showed up the day before yesterday ruining Stock....... __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

12-11-2011, 01:18 PM	#5
Peter Ash Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 262 Likes: 2 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stock seat clarification please Special hood, special suspension, special steering, special tires, special brakes, special cylinder heads, special rockerarms, special engine block, special intake manifold, . My mint restored STOCK 1970 AAR Cuda. My Drag Pak is much safer and waaaay more relaxed to drive at speed!! Peter Ash Last edited by Peter Ash; 12-11-2011 at 01:31 PM.

12-11-2011, 09:28 PM	#7
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,016 Likes: 57 Liked 320 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Stock seat clarification please Pure Stock Eliminator in IHRA is what NHRA Stock Eliminator was 30 years ago.......... Maybe after Stock evolves into Super Stock, and that will happen the way it's going, NHRA can copy IHRA and start all over again with a true Stock Eliminator???????????? __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

12-11-2011, 09:44 PM	#8
Mickey Whaley VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,220 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Stock seat clarification please where is the violyn same ol

12-10-2011, 07:30 PM	#2
Andrew Hill Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 703 Likes: 449 Liked 174 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Stock seat clarification please 1970 camaro seat http://www.cardomain.com/ride/211898...ro#21189830011 Aftermarket seat http://www.jegs.com/p/Scat/Procar-Pr...68352/10002/-1 Would a seat like the second one as a replacement really detract from the stock look? They seem to be made a lot better than the originals __________________ 3207 D/SA, C/ED

12-10-2011, 07:44 PM	#10
eddie c Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Southeastern Pa. Posts: 53 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Stock seat clarification please First off,this is an honest to goodness situation that I saw with my own eyes. A number of years ago I had a buddy in stock eliminator that took some parts to a shop to have them chemically cleaned( if you know what I mean) anyway there was a set of completely de-upholestered Camaro front seats there for chemically cleaning . Both seats were sitting in front of me with a tag with the customers name on them.(Yes, he raced at the same track as I did) Now I dont know how much weight was removed from them,but they definately came back with less metal on them. Were the seats compromised as far as safety,dont know,but how far does it go? If safe lightweight racing are allowed hopefully no one will try and modify them even further.