Time to Revisit the Super Times?

[CBS]

Just trying not to beat the dead horse again.....

Speeding up the indexes would do what....make you feel better?.....Or just raise the speeds another 5 mph...and then everyone would complain how the speeds are out of hand and a limit needs to be put in place.....lol...not sure what your goal is with speeding up the indexes.....I just don't see it....we voted on it last year and it was voted down....

We have pretty good motors in our cars....and the dragster runs 186 at 890 and our car runs 168 at 990....how fast would they go at 8.00 and 9.00....don't even start with talking about increasing the spectator appeal...or participation....people just don't care about anything but fuel cars.....they hardly watch pro stock....and you're worried about not understanding the throttle stop racing.....

Chris...look what you started....lol

[JThomas]

Originally Posted by CBS

Just trying not to beat the dead horse again.....

Speeding up the indexes would do what....make you feel better?.....Or just raise the speeds another 5 mph...and then everyone would complain how the speeds are out of hand and a limit needs to be put in place.....lol...not sure what your goal is with speeding up the indexes.....I just don't see it....we voted on it last year and it was voted down....

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Not trying to be a smart *** but since you are a SRAC member, how long do you think the index should stay at 8.90 ? Forever ?

In 1985 when I started, a dragster that went 8.60-8.70 was a pretty quick car. At any bracket race you were either the fastest or close to it. Today an 8.70 dragster at a bracket race is not only the slowest dragster there it is also slower than 1/2 the door cars.

I agree that you will not get spectators even at a 6.90 index (now we're talking). But how do you explain to a newbie you bring along to the races why that Mustang AAA/S stocker and many SS cars just went quicker than your dragster goes ?

A new 7.90 class will NEVER happen as the track operators want less payout not more. It would just be less S/C cars.

The result of the vote taken was that the majority of the S/C racers wanted the index lowered. They just did not agree on what to lower it to. The way that vote was presented, the outcome was determined before the vote was taken with 3 options.

So how long do we keep 8.90 ???

[CBS]

Why change it????

Because a stocker or super stocker can go that fast has nothing to do with Super Comp....

My vette is much more violent than my mustang but much slower in ET...so what.....is this an ego thing...(that wasn't a shot at you) but it just drives the cost and speed up....and its still the same...just quicker...

we have bigger issues like seat belts and window nets and the cost to go to the races in general....

Race in TD if you want to go fast....that's why it was brought on....

[Bob Verwold]

Rock,

Not trying to switch topic but, but how is it that S/St pays the same entry fee and the payout is $200. less than S/G & S/C ?
Does the "entry level" apply here ?

[BOB SCHMIDT]

I like the way you think Bob, an entry level entry fee!! Works for me. 20 percent off!

[SGSST109E]

Make all the Pro trees .500. That will allow a heavy car to run in SG

[Roger Weaver]

How about only Red cars in S/ST and S/G just saying.....

[Jason Oldfield]

Originally Posted by CBS

Race in TD if you want to go fast....that's why it was brought on....

Thank you. And for your door car guys, they have a class called Top Sportsman that you may have heard of.

And don't forget, there's also Comp Eliminator too if you want to go fast in your dragster OR door car....

[TS310C]

I see both sides of this. But would like to add the following comments.

1. Going faster WILL NOT bring in more spectators. The tracks need to do this. Most of the tracks we race at do a very poor job of marketing our events. Look at Norwalk, they do a great job and they get spectators. I don't think we will EVER pack the stands, but we could have a few more with some help from the tracks. But to be clear, changing the class will not help.

2. I do see where people are coming from about the indexes being 25+ years old. All the other classes have adjusted several times since inception. I would not be opposed to making the classes faster and I think round numbers would be a great idea.

3. Ultimately I will race the classes regardless of what they do. I am there for me, not for the fans.

[Chris Williams]

I agree with all three points. On #1, I'll agree that it won't bring in more spectators, but it will confuse/annoy the one's who are there substantially less. It's annoying for racers and fans to be on the stop for 1/3rd of the run. If it was just a second or so, I think we'd all like it more.