All major event s/ss winners undrgo tech inspection

[Jeff Lee]

This issue of "Class Racer" or "Bracket Racer" gets brought up often. And I would venture to say those that are the least successful "Class Racers" are the ones who expound the idea that Class Racers are nothing more than Bracket racers.
That being said, if your on the bracket side of the debate, on your arguments, a bracket car is nothing more than a street car.
Reminds me of the "end of the world" crowd. They've been denouncing life as we know it for centuries. True, one of these days they'll get it right but they've missed their deadlines thousands of times thus far.

[THE LEGEND]

Jeff,
I thought you were a lot smarter than that. It may be that way on the left coast but not east of the Mississippi.
A few names come to mind like Biondo,Bertozzi,Rampy,Beard, and a lot more that started off racing with shoe polish.
Chip

[Rich Biebel]

I can backup Todd's statement about barely making it in for a 128 car show at a Division 1 race....

I had my Firebird in A/FIA a few years ago and was 200+ lbs overweight.
I raced in A to avoid the real fast B cars....
My car was pretty slow as I was just getting going with a car like this....EFI LT-1 home built engine and fuel map...and it was not to good back than...

I made a decent first run in cool air and never gave a thought to possibly being bumped out of the field.....

I wound up 120 something out of a 150 something car field....but was worried I would be bumped out as more and more cars showed up....

I think I bulbed in round one for the umpteenth time it seemed like.....but at least I got to race....

If I knew it was going to be like that I could have probably sped it up more than enough to be solidly in the field....The weight was pretty much fixed where it was.....but I could have tried some other common speeder upper tricks....

I liked it though and I felt pretty proud just to be able to get in....

No where near as many cars the last few years.....

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

Jeff,
I thought you were a lot smarter than that. It may be that way on the left coast but not east of the Mississippi.
A few names come to mind like Biondo,Bertozzi,Rampy,Beard, and a lot more that started off racing with shoe polish.
Chip

I think what Jeff is saying is that if you EMBRACE what class racing is (and it is not bracket racing), as opposed to looking at it like its a bracket race, you will be much more successful at it. The drivers you mentioned do JUST THAT. Does being a great bracket racer help you as a class racer? I don't think that's even up for a debate, of course it does. But if you don't adopt the mindset of class racing, you will be less successful at it.

[Rich Biebel]

oops

Those guys are the best and most acomplished racers that we have the honor and privlage to race with.
after saying that, Those guys haven't built anything themself, and can't turn a wrench themselves. They have plenty of people around them, some are the best wrenches in the business. I know one, and he is a major contributor to the success of the guy he helps. If those guys didn't have the money, or help they would not be racing with us in the NHRA. Why, because the cars we race, and sometimes heads up are not mindless oversized engine, and tire footbrake bracket cars that run with no standard. The heads up, quailifying, and other aspects of our racing is what balances out our racing. Ask any of the Allpro dragracers that we have to dragrace with in the NHRA if it is just a bracket race? I think you will find a different answers than the nonsence spewed here...

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

Jeff,
I thought you were a lot smarter than that. It may be that way on the left coast but not east of the Mississippi.
A few names come to mind like Biondo,Bertozzi,Rampy,Beard, and a lot more that started off racing with shoe polish.
Chip

[Pvt Parts]

When I first became interested in NHRA, you had to win class to get into the eliminator on Sunday. That became my first goal...... to be able to race in SS eliminator on Sunday. I'll never forget the announcer's address in round 1.... "here are all of the class winners in Super Stock...... " You had to earn your spot in the eliminator. Those were the days.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Pvt Parts

When I first became interested in NHRA, you had to win class to get into the eliminator on Sunday. That became my first goal...... to be able to race in SS eliminator on Sunday. I'll never forget the announcer's address in round 1.... "here are all of the class winners in Super Stock...... " You had to earn your spot in the eliminator. Those were the days.

Amen!!

[THE LEGEND]

Scott,
It was definately different when you had to win class to race on Sunday. IHRA was like that once also.
It was different when you had to dial the record or the standard too.
it's different now.

Todd,
Are you telling me Rampy can't change convertor. Come on. I think you are smoking that same crap Jeff Lee is.
Chip Johnson

[Pvt Parts]

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

Scott,
It was definately different when you had to win class to race on Sunday. IHRA was like that once also.
It was different when you had to dial the record or the standard too.
it's different now.

Todd,
Are you telling me Rampy can't change convertor. Come on. I think you are smoking that same crap Jeff Lee is.
Chip Johnson

I've raced under both..... win class and qualifying. I guess that's what makes Indy more challenging. And in my opinion, it's still the best race. I still say though that moving to Comp was the best thing I ever did. I was a lot happier there. Super Stock is a training ground. When you think you've got it together, go to Comp. Very simple, qualify, pump, weigh and race. First car to the finish line wins.