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Old 12-17-2011, 08:27 PM   #1
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The heads have to meet the specs from the year claimed, hence change the aforementioned stuff, and only get +5, probably still a bargain. A move in the right direction. What am I misssing here?
Jeffrey, you know we're tight and I like ya, but, I aint fallen for this one. The specs (volumes) are one thing, the port shapes, guide sizes, short turn radiuses, valve distance to center of the chamber, plug location, chamber shape etc, are all going to be better. Why would Edelbrock build an EXACT duplicate of ANY oe cylinder head? They are going to install all known performance advantages to entice the buyer to purchase a set of these "replacement" heads. Like I said, otherwise, why bother? Original heads are out there. If you chose a combo that these parts are not available, you shouldnt lobby for an aftermarket part. (No disrespect to anyone that has, this is my opinion) If I decide to run a Max Wedge, I had better be prepared to search my *** of for a set of unmolested original heads. Carbs are also very hard to find too, but I dont want a Holley accepted on my 283. What you are missing is the oe heads cant legally have these mods that are already engineered into these accepted heads. Remember the angled spark plug adapters? And for the record, I dont think the Pontiacs or the BBC's replacements should have ever been allowed either! But, the barn door has been left open......

I look forward to drinking a tall glass of tea and discussing it at Belle Rose with ya, cant wait for March!!

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Old 12-18-2011, 12:01 AM   #2
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Wade, Pontiac has no aftermarket replacement heads accepted. If nobody was allowed replacement heads I would not want any for my combo. Since the cat is out of the bag, why shoudnt somebody that has to race against these guys lobby for the same type of parts. If we could only roll back the rules to 1977. Those were the days.
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Wade, Pontiac has no aftermarket replacement heads accepted. If nobody was allowed replacement heads I would not want any for my combo. Since the cat is out of the bag, why shoudnt somebody that has to race against these guys lobby for the same type of parts. If we could only roll back the rules to 1977. Those were the days.
Todd, don't get me wrong on this, I do understand why. Just don't blow smoke and tell us they are replacement heads, I don't buy it. If aftermarket parts are allowed for one, they should be legal and readily available for all combos.
Don't the 428 Pontiacs use an alum aftermarket head?
These type of changes are why a simple valve spring rule later causes people to ask for aftermarket seats. The quicker et's are now a cause for safety concerns. Butterfly effect, eh?
Anyway, we'll see how it all goes, can't unring a bell, right?

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Old 12-18-2011, 09:59 AM   #4
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Jeffrey, you know we're tight and I like ya, but, I aint fallen for this one. The specs (volumes) are one thing, the port shapes, guide sizes, short turn radiuses, valve distance to center of the chamber, plug location, chamber shape etc, are all going to be better. Why would Edelbrock build an EXACT duplicate of ANY oe cylinder head? They are going to install all known performance advantages to entice the buyer to purchase a set of these "replacement" heads. Like I said, otherwise, why bother? Original heads are out there. If you chose a combo that these parts are not available, you shouldnt lobby for an aftermarket part. (No disrespect to anyone that has, this is my opinion) If I decide to run a Max Wedge, I had better be prepared to search my *** of for a set of unmolested original heads. Carbs are also very hard to find too, but I dont want a Holley accepted on my 283. What you are missing is the oe heads cant legally have these mods that are already engineered into these accepted heads. Remember the angled spark plug adapters? And for the record, I dont think the Pontiacs or the BBC's replacements should have ever been allowed either! But, the barn door has been left open......

I look forward to drinking a tall glass of tea and discussing it at Belle Rose with ya, cant wait for March!!

Wade O
Right on the only thing that makes these aftermarket heads 'replacement' is that they fit the engine block. totally redesigned port shapes. the only true replacement head that was ever cast by aftermarket were the horrible dart iron replacements that flowed even less than the heads they replaced. I have one simple question to those on here whining they need edelbrock heads. If your racing currently and have a few sets of your unobtainable,rare heads already why do need these new heads now?1 So you can try to do the restoration people a favor and give them your old heads? 2So you can have yours cause someone got theirs ? .Where does it all end?
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