They say you can't go back....but...??

Jim Hanig · 12-24-2011, 02:52 PM

What would we do with the thousnds of dollars we have already spent,for those parts.? Jim Hanig

Mike Carr · 12-24-2011, 02:58 PM

You wouldn't have to do a thing. Other than change the letters on your windows. Did you read what I wrote?

If you have, say, a current A/SA (8.00-8.49 pound Stock class) 427/425 '69 Camaro, you would be, under my proposed idea, a SS/EA (8 pound S/S class with the same rules as current 2011 A/SA engine/car rules.).

The only thing you would change is the letters on the windows and have the option of a 10.5" slick. Nothing else would change. 8 pound class, 11.00 Index.

X-TECH MAN · 12-25-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Hanig

What would we do with the thousnds of dollars we have already spent,for those parts.? Jim Hanig

Thats why they make land fills.Throw the junk away.....LOL.

Mark Yacavone · 12-25-2011, 11:49 PM

Mikey, so you are really advocating the NHRA adopt another IHRA class..
Won't be the first time.
I agree on the need for an entry level class, but it's not just the cost of a Stocker that's the issue.
How about the $305 entries? Membership, permanent number fees...I don't even know what they are now,,....$10 a gallon racing fuel ? Diesel fuel or pump gas for towing ,etc, etc?
NO money for a class win! NO money till 3rd round.....
Nobody on the outside, in their right mind, would want to jump in to that.

treessavoy · 12-26-2011, 01:22 AM

If you wanna go back then you have to run off class records which means rich guys win, just like the "good old days"!

JimR

OLD INJUN · 12-26-2011, 08:53 AM

this is what i think , listen to this.

Ed Wright · 12-26-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by treessavoy

If you wanna go back then you have to run off class records which means rich guys win, just like the "good old days"!

JimR

Jim, I raced then. It wasn't so much "rich guys" as it was guys with some ability doing their own work winning. We weren't running over with check book racers like we are now. Not nearly as many "rich guys" in the U.S. as there is now. Things were different, people were different.

Jim Wahl · 12-26-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Jim, I raced then. It wasn't so much "rich guys" as it was guys with some ability doing their own work winning. We weren't running over with check book racers like we are now. Not nearly as many "rich guys" in the U.S. as there is now. Things were different, people were different.

It's hard to argue with that! Jim

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treessavoy · 12-29-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Jim, I raced then. It wasn't so much "rich guys" as it was guys with some ability doing their own work winning. We weren't running over with check book racers like we are now. Not nearly as many "rich guys" in the U.S. as there is now. Things were different, people were different.

Ed,

When I raced back then I would have to work (service station) for a month just to buy a set of headers whereas the moneyed racers had no problem buying parts and doing the work to crush records and make your car uncompetitive in a single night.

Back then you couldn't move to another class without buying another car because cars were classed by shipping weight and HP.

JimR

Ed Wright · 12-29-2011, 04:38 PM

You could change carbs to change classes with most cars. 2bl, 4bl, multiple carbs, etc. We usually put toll road money in the glove box when we left for out of town races just to make sure we could pay the toll to get back, and put back money for gas ahead of time to pay for the trips. Usually carried sandwiches to eat. I had to make traction bars, etc, because I couold not afford to buy everything. Built my own engines, trans, set up my own rear gears, etc, etc. I often held the record, and never had anybody "bury" it to where I couldn't run it.

12-24-2011, 02:52 PM	#1
Jim Hanig Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pukwana SD Posts: 860 Likes: 554 Liked 99 Times in 49 Posts	Re: They say you can't go back....but...?? What would we do with the thousnds of dollars we have already spent,for those parts.? Jim Hanig

12-24-2011, 02:58 PM	#2
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: They say you can't go back....but...?? You wouldn't have to do a thing. Other than change the letters on your windows. Did you read what I wrote? If you have, say, a current A/SA (8.00-8.49 pound Stock class) 427/425 '69 Camaro, you would be, under my proposed idea, a SS/EA (8 pound S/S class with the same rules as current 2011 A/SA engine/car rules.). The only thing you would change is the letters on the windows and have the option of a 10.5" slick. Nothing else would change. 8 pound class, 11.00 Index. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

12-25-2011, 11:49 PM	#4
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,818 Likes: 2,910 Liked 5,126 Times in 1,954 Posts	Re: They say you can't go back....but...?? Mikey, so you are really advocating the NHRA adopt another IHRA class.. Won't be the first time. I agree on the need for an entry level class, but it's not just the cost of a Stocker that's the issue. How about the $305 entries? Membership, permanent number fees...I don't even know what they are now,,....$10 a gallon racing fuel ? Diesel fuel or pump gas for towing ,etc, etc? NO money for a class win! NO money till 3rd round..... Nobody on the outside, in their right mind, would want to jump in to that. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

12-26-2011, 01:22 AM	#5
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: They say you can't go back....but...?? If you wanna go back then you have to run off class records which means rich guys win, just like the "good old days"! JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

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Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: They say you can't go back....but...?? You could change carbs to change classes with most cars. 2bl, 4bl, multiple carbs, etc. We usually put toll road money in the glove box when we left for out of town races just to make sure we could pay the toll to get back, and put back money for gas ahead of time to pay for the trips. Usually carried sandwiches to eat. I had to make traction bars, etc, because I couold not afford to buy everything. Built my own engines, trans, set up my own rear gears, etc, etc. I often held the record, and never had anybody "bury" it to where I couldn't run it. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA