It is time to change the Point System

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Billy, I`m sure that Jim was not saying that the competition in Div 1 or 3 (or ANY division) was easier, rather he was talking about proximity of NHRA National events.

I know exactly what he was talking about and I'll be the first one to say that I'm glad I don't have to travel those distances BUT every Div. race I go to will be a 7 round race with a bunch of "Hitters" at every one. I've been out west. I'd love to live out west. Just not right now. I like my short tows to any one of a half-a-dozen tracks BUT you don't see west coast Racers coming east to win championships!

[Floyd Staggs]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I know exactly what he was talking about and I'll be the first one to say that I'm glad I don't have to travel those distances BUT every Div. race I go to will be a 7 round race with a bunch of "Hitters" at every one. I've been out west. I'd love to live out west. Just not right now. I like my short tows to any one of a half-a-dozen tracks BUT you don't see west coast Racers coming east to win championships!

Yes you do. McClanahan last year.

[Don Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Hagen Gary

For Obama I assume. Your idea falls right in line with his governing style. Reward people who do the Minimum. Take from the people who want to work for a championship. The way I see it, If I don't win a couple races early, I don't have any money or points to chase the Title anyway. The point system is fine, only change needed is to reward the top 3 Qualifiers with points. That would help the AHFS

Now that is not right Ken this has a political overtone , mentioning that guy in the same sentence with me >lol that hurts lol again

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Floyd Staggs

Yes you do. McClanahan last year.

The exception, not the rule. Let's just leave this that each Division has its advantages and disadvantages so if someone is serious about winning a National title choose your home Division wisely!

[Another Friendly Racer]

People are going out west to win a championship b/c the last few races of the year are out west. If you are hinting that its easier to win on the west coast, you are badly mistaken and obviously have not raced much out west. In fact, it can be argued that you see more champions coming from the east coast because the quality of competition from top to bottom does not stack up with the west.

[Don Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Hagen Gary

For Obama I assume. Your idea falls right in line with his governing style. Reward people who do the Minimum. Take from the people who want to work for a championship. The way I see it, If I don't win a couple races early, I don't have any money or points to chase the Title anyway. The point system is fine, only change needed is to reward the top 3 Qualifiers with points. That would help the AHFS

Hagen Gary said"I don't have any money to chase the title "

I know what you mean about the expense it takes to chase points if NHRA would adapt a more reasonable way of getting points it would no doubt cost a lot less and then all racers could chase points not just the 10% racers who have the time and money to chase points in the old antiquated points system we have now .

[Hagen Gary]

Don,
Please don't misquote me in an attempt to make it seem like I should agree with you.
The money would come from the races I won, and the points from those wins would be the reason i decide to use that surplus money to chase the Title. If not, I'm ok with the 8 races I go to a year. I have to assume that is the case with 90% of the racers.
Lets talk about rasing payouts

[Billy Nees]

[QUOTE=Another Friendly Racer;303543]People are going out west to win a championship b/c the last few races of the year are out west.[QUOTE]

If that's the case then why don't more racers come east to run earlier races if they are going to chase a championship?

[QUOTE] If you are hinting that its easier to win on the west coast, you are badly mistaken and obviously have not raced much out west.[QUOTE]

I didn't hint at or say anything like that. I did say that there are more 7 round races and a lot of "killers" (hitters, whatever).

In fact, it can be argued that you see more champions coming from the east coast because the quality of competition from top to bottom does not stack up with the west.

I don't see any logic in that statement but if there are more competitors in the east then it would stand to reason that there would be more quality competitors.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Hagen Gary

Don,
Please don't misquote me in an attempt to make it seem like I should agree with you.
The money would come from the races I won, and the points from those wins would be the reason i decide to use that surplus money to chase the Title. If not, I'm ok with the 8 races I go to a year. I have to assume that is the case with 90% of the racers.
Lets talk about rasing payouts

At the current cost of travel, I don't think you could win races and hope to have the winnings generate enough funding to chase points. At best, you could hope for the wins to generate some external support from potential or current sponsors. And at the sportsman level, damned little of that.

Unless you race on a shoestring that is thinner than the one Michael Beard races on, the winnings from one race might fund the attendance of one race, not counting regular wear and tear costs, and not counting contingency payments which are constantly shrinking. You'd have to have a nearly unbroken string of wins, with the rest being final round appearances, with maybe a semi final round finish here and there. If you did that well, you wouldn't need to travel much, or far, in most divisions.

[Stang_Bang]

Originally Posted by Hagen Gary

Don,
Please don't misquote me in an attempt to make it seem like I should agree with you.
The money would come from the races I won, and the points from those wins would be the reason i decide to use that surplus money to chase the Title. If not, I'm ok with the 8 races I go to a year. I have to assume that is the case with 90% of the racers.
Lets talk about rasing payouts

I agree 100% Hagen. If you notice most peoples championship speeches they all start with "I didn't expect to be chasing the world at the beginning of the year" I see more of a problem with the payouts than the current points system by far, when was the last time we got an increase in our purses?