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Old 01-23-2012, 02:47 PM   #1
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The NHRA SS/CX rules closely mirror the Street All Motor rules used by the FWD crowd. Right now there are a few Honda's running 10.0-10.19's @ 2150lbs. with 164" engines, on gas. The "Pro" All-motor FWD cars are in the 9.0's-9.20's @ 1700lbs. with 164" engines. NHRA's rules for the SS/CX class are a bit more open than the Street All Motor rules, as well as coming in about 100lbs. lighter in weight. I am fairly confident that I can get in the 10.0-10.10's range in SS/CX trim @ 2050lbs. with a 164" engine.

Who's capable of running more than .700 under in SS/CX? Does than matter anywhere but at Indy? <---- Sorry, I'm a noob here!
I was talking about SS/EX I'm pretty sure Scott Kelly has run .7 or so under with his Scion.
SS/CX is a RWD class. FWD conversion means you change a FWD car to a RWD car. That makes a world of difference.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:30 PM   #2
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Yes RWD conversions are ALLOWED in SS/CX, but are not mandatory per NHRA tech...
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:24 PM   #3
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I'm sure you "could" run it in SS/CX and run the index, but why? SS/EX is only .30 difference. From what you say, you could run under that index easy anyway without all the added benifits SS/EX offers.
Just about every SS/CX car can run a second under, not that it matters because there are so few, but its just not fair RWD vs FWD
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Old 01-25-2012, 12:10 AM   #4
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I'm sure you "could" run it in SS/CX and run the index, but why? SS/EX is only .30 difference. From what you say, you could run under that index easy anyway without all the added benifits SS/EX offers.
Just about every SS/CX car can run a second under, not that it matters because there are so few, but its just not fair RWD vs FWD
There are just many drawbacks with a FWD to be able to run headsup with an equal RWD car. It won't even be close.
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:05 PM   #5
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Let's not argue the virtues of RWD or FWD since it's a moot point if you can't get a car down to minimum weight for the engine size if it's a RWD conversion @ 164"...
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Old 01-27-2012, 04:49 PM   #6
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Let's not argue the virtues of RWD or FWD since it's a moot point if you can't get a car down to minimum weight for the engine size if it's a RWD conversion @ 164"...
I'm not familiar with the type of car you are planning on running. But on my Neon trans is 60 pounds heavier than an stock A727 trans, my axles are heavier than a lightweight driveshaft. And I don't know exactly what my rear axle weights granted it is a lot lighter than a lightweight rearend.
I would gladly give up the weight. To use any gear ratio. Plus any tire (right now I use 20" tall tires that look like doughtnut spares). The highest I cross the finish line is 7200. My motor should make power past 8500.
The reason I don't turn the motor sideways (LOL) is the expense. And the index.
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Old 01-30-2012, 01:37 PM   #7
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They need to add a class in Comp for front-wheel drive N/A cars. Most young guys into the 4-cyl stuff race in heads - up classes. At least Comp is not bracket racing.
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