Anyone test Renegade fuel ?

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

We will probably test two of Renegade's fuels tomorrow, against Sunoco Supreme, which runs great in both cars. I'll be sending the data to my friend, Toby Baptiste, at Renegade.

We quit running C-11 years ago, it was nasty, and C-12 ran better. The problem with C-12 is it is ridiculously expensive, and we've had fresh C-12, from the VP drum, at the VP trailer fail fuel check, when fuel check was 30 feet away from the trailer. I ran VP for decades, but failing fuel check 3-5 times a year at $12 or more a gallon was just unacceptable.

Alan - What you need is to buy your fuel elsewhere as C-11 is and has always been more expensive than C-12 .As far as fuel check goes the best way to pass is to only buy it in sealed 5 gallon pails .

[Greg Hill]

Renegade is not a refiner. I bought two drums last year one checked like Sunoco 110 and one checked like competition fuel 114. I think they buy fuel from different refineries snd re- sell it. Be careful because you won't always know what you're getting.

[Alan Roehrich]

I sent Toby Baptiste an email with a link to this thread. I also told him to email Ken before he posted.

Toby is a good guy, I've known him since he was around 7 years old, he's been involved in drag racing all of his life.

[Charles Rainey]

Originally Posted by Greg Hill

Renegade is not a refiner. I bought two drums last year one checked like Sunoco 110 and one checked like competition fuel 114. I think they buy fuel from different refineries snd re- sell it. Be careful because you won't always know what you're getting.

I will have to agree with Greg here. Very few companies have the resources to be a refinery so that they can control their on fuels. Most purchase on a contract that could change from contract to contract. They can control their additives and request that what they get meet certain requirements---buuut it may get changed in a pinch. I have several friends that sale fuel but to me that means very little in that they sale what they get. Fuel is like oil, you sale what is sent to you and take for granted that it is what you paid for. Very few, if any, can check the fuel to see if and what it is. That takes away nothing from the seller but it is what it is. But I do hope this Renegade is as good as what people say. We need that competition in this fuel dollar society. Racers seem to bear the brunt of fuel costs.
charles

[Mike Croley]

Originally Posted by Charles Rainey

I will have to agree with Greg here. Very few companies have the resources to be a refinery so that they can control their on fuels. Most purchase on a contract that could change from contract to contract. They can control their additives and request that what they get meet certain requirements---buuut it may get changed in a pinch. I have several friends that sale fuel but to me that means very little in that they sale what they get. Fuel is like oil, you sale what is sent to you and take for granted that it is what you paid for. Very few, if any, can check the fuel to see if and what it is. That takes away nothing from the seller but it is what it is. But I do hope this Renegade is as good as what people say. We need that competition in this fuel dollar society. Racers seem to bear the brunt of fuel costs.
charles

Renegade is as good as people say . The single most important aspect of race gas is quality control . And as Alan said in an earlier post , some companies seem to take quality control from batch to batch and drum to drum pretty lightly . Close enough shouldn't be acceptable or accepted .

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by Mike Croley

Renegade is as good as people say .

But are they a refiner/are they producing the fuel or buying the fuel and reselling and if not a refiner who is making the fuel they sell?

Never heard of them until a few months ago.

As for Torco, used it one time and never again. Leaked past my carb gaskets and stained my intake manifold. Sunoco nor VP have ever done that.

[drace69]

Not to get off the subject but I am curious if any of you Stk/SS racers have taken up the cause of getting E-85 and/or E-98 as an approved fuel option?

The stuff works awesome and is cheap relative to VP or the like. Cooling aspect is great. Consistency is incredible. Readily available @ around $3.00/gal.

Seems it would be a Win/Win as long as the fuel check wouldn't be an issue but I would think they should be able to figure that out - they do for the other "Approved" fuels and like with VP it is hardly a consistent system anyway.

Been running it for a few years in my bracket car and Love it - no babysitting/draining etc... like methanol, I can buy out of the blender pump and have never had it check more than 1% over/under the E-85 standard.

1st year out with it won a track championship. So had no issues with getting it to work.

Like I said just curious.

[SS 230]

I ran Renegade 112 for the first time at the Orlando div. race. To my knowledge I was the only one running it, I was also the only one to fail fuel check. The fuel checked 6 numbers off what it was supposed to be. Checked the car twice and each jug once,for a total of 4 times. So I pumped it out and cleaned the system completely, put fresh VP C-12 in. Made 2nd qual. pass, fuel checked fine, picked up .09 hund. and 2 mph. The R-112 came right out of the drum that I watched the guy open , the same place that I always buy my fuel from. This was also the first time that I have failed fuel check.