What's up with NHRA logic?

Ron Ortiz · 03-03-2012, 10:52 PM

Ready for this, I did not want to bring this up, but here is what went down.
Talked to DD at Orlando. Said that this years GP's apply to next years requirements. That if I averaged the last 3 years, 2-2-1, it would average to 5 divided by 3 = less than 2, since they round down it's only 1 GP. Told to contact Jennifer Gregg at NHRA. She informed me about the grade 2 situation upon the deadline. Saw the withdrawals and knew I could not get in, changed all the family plans, which is about 10 people. Decided to fully repair The Imperial Palace. Notice the other day that I had now 2 GP's from Orlando & Gville Divs. Knew they were for next year. Went into the national entry section and it allows me to enter the gators now because I have 2 GP's. WHAT! Too late, all plans were changed. From now on I will only trust what I read upon reading the grade point system as described in the grade point window, which only shows if you have a grade point. It is only updated after about a 2 week period after you renew your membership and Comp #. Before that I could not view such information. This has been an adventure. Sure wish I could have just entered at the gate.

So I am out this year, but maybe next year. I really like racing or I wouldn't put myself through this nonsense.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA not overjoyed

danny waters sr · 03-03-2012, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

Ready for this, I did not want to bring this up, but here is what went down.
Talked to DD at Orlando. Said that this years GP's apply to next years requirements. That if I averaged the last 3 years, 2-2-1, it would average to 5 divided by 3 = less than 2, since they round down it's only 1 GP. Told to contact Jennifer Gregg at NHRA. She informed me about the grade 2 situation upon the deadline. Saw the withdrawals and knew I could not get in, changed all the family plans, which is about 10 people. Decided to fully repair The Imperial Palace. Notice the other day that I had now 2 GP's from Orlando & Gville Divs. Knew they were for next year. Went into the national entry section and it allows me to enter the gators now because I have 2 GP's. WHAT! Too late, all plans were changed. From now on I will only trust what I read upon reading the grade point system as described in the grade point window, which only shows if you have a grade point. It is only updated after about a 2 week period after you renew your membership and Comp #. Before that I could not view such information. This has been an adventure. Sure wish I could have just entered at the gate.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA not overjoyed

So I am out this year, but maybe next year. I really like racing or I wouldn't put myself through this nonsense.

you are right "nonsense"...Glad i don't have to go through that stress to get someone to take my money.....lol

Jim Wahl · 03-03-2012, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

Ready for this, I did not want to bring this up, but here is what went down.
Talked to DD at Orlando. Said that this years GP's apply to next years requirements. That if I averaged the last 3 years, 2-2-1, it would average to 5 divided by 3 = less than 2, since they round down it's only 1 GP. Told to contact Jennifer Gregg at NHRA. She informed me about the grade 2 situation upon the deadline. Saw the withdrawals and knew I could not get in, changed all the family plans, which is about 10 people. Decided to fully repair The Imperial Palace. Notice the other day that I had now 2 GP's from Orlando & Gville Divs. Knew they were for next year. Went into the national entry section and it allows me to enter the gators now because I have 2 GP's. WHAT! Too late, all plans were changed. From now on I will only trust what I read upon reading the grade point system as described in the grade point window, which only shows if you have a grade point. It is only updated after about a 2 week period after you renew your membership and Comp #. Before that I could not view such information. This has been an adventure. Sure wish I could have just entered at the gate.

So I am out this year, but maybe next year. I really like racing or I wouldn't put myself through this nonsense.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA not overjoyed

IHRA allows you to enter at the gate! Jim

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Toby Lang · 03-04-2012, 12:16 AM

Well, since you're getting the Imperial Palace fully repaired, maybe you can go to Atlana or Charlotte this year.

-Toby

Ron Ortiz · 03-04-2012, 01:08 AM

Toby, would love to do that. But since the Imperial Palace gets a whopping 5 mpg, I need to win to break even. Atlanta is 1200 miles round trip. Lots of expense with fuel, entry, a paltry $160. 5 gal of VP finest @ $11.50, and the usual standards of living, fine dining, beverages, and the ever hidden fees. Doesn't make sense to me, but I chose this game, must be a mental thing.
For my situation, I need to keep close to home. Used to travel in a van and a short trailer, did all the stories that you've heard about. Do not want to do that anymore. Just want to race Stock and have a good time.

Well I am going back to the bonfire that we got going in the back yard. Just love it, bonfire and it's 80 degrees with a nice breeze.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA racing is fun

Lew Silverman · 03-04-2012, 01:20 AM

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Lew

philip miles · 03-04-2012, 07:15 PM

For the racers that can afford to travel the country and wait for a race to break out, you don't have a dog in this fight with NHRA on this subject. For the racers that have limited time and finances to sport a Stock Eliminator car, NHRA's policy on grade points is totally stupid. I could understand if the field was full with grade 2 racers and there aren't any open spots, that's the policy that I would understand. There are now 6 spots open for the Gator Nats in Stock, what is NHRA thinking not to let grade 1 racers to enter.
The people who run our sport in the offices of NHRA are not racers for sure. They are just pencil pushers with no common sence and just repeat what they are told to say! Can't think out of the box that makes business sence.
It's not the fault of the racer that NHRA can't keep tracks under their wing, it hurts the racer when a track changes associations because the issues that NHRA have with the tracks and doesn't care if they fix it. PBIR went IHRA because of the past D2 director, nobody stepped in from NHRA to see if they could fix the issues, instead the track was sent adrift. There are 5 tracks with in 100 miles from me, none are NHRA, closest is Orlando, 200 miles away. There are also no National opens anywhere in the D2 area, the one that I used to be able to go to was the old Moroso, now PBIR's Citrius Nats.
Casey Miles
248H Stock?

03-03-2012, 10:52 PM	#1
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 990 Likes: 36 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: What's up with NHRA logic? Ready for this, I did not want to bring this up, but here is what went down. Talked to DD at Orlando. Said that this years GP's apply to next years requirements. That if I averaged the last 3 years, 2-2-1, it would average to 5 divided by 3 = less than 2, since they round down it's only 1 GP. Told to contact Jennifer Gregg at NHRA. She informed me about the grade 2 situation upon the deadline. Saw the withdrawals and knew I could not get in, changed all the family plans, which is about 10 people. Decided to fully repair The Imperial Palace. Notice the other day that I had now 2 GP's from Orlando & Gville Divs. Knew they were for next year. Went into the national entry section and it allows me to enter the gators now because I have 2 GP's. WHAT! Too late, all plans were changed. From now on I will only trust what I read upon reading the grade point system as described in the grade point window, which only shows if you have a grade point. It is only updated after about a 2 week period after you renew your membership and Comp #. Before that I could not view such information. This has been an adventure. Sure wish I could have just entered at the gate. So I am out this year, but maybe next year. I really like racing or I wouldn't put myself through this nonsense. Ron Ortiz U/SA not overjoyed __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

03-04-2012, 12:16 AM	#4
Toby Lang VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 2,133 Likes: 2 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: What's up with NHRA logic? Well, since you're getting the Imperial Palace fully repaired, maybe you can go to Atlana or Charlotte this year. -Toby

03-04-2012, 01:08 AM	#5
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 990 Likes: 36 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: What's up with NHRA logic? Toby, would love to do that. But since the Imperial Palace gets a whopping 5 mpg, I need to win to break even. Atlanta is 1200 miles round trip. Lots of expense with fuel, entry, a paltry $160. 5 gal of VP finest @ $11.50, and the usual standards of living, fine dining, beverages, and the ever hidden fees. Doesn't make sense to me, but I chose this game, must be a mental thing. For my situation, I need to keep close to home. Used to travel in a van and a short trailer, did all the stories that you've heard about. Do not want to do that anymore. Just want to race Stock and have a good time. Well I am going back to the bonfire that we got going in the back yard. Just love it, bonfire and it's 80 degrees with a nice breeze. Ron Ortiz U/SA racing is fun __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

03-04-2012, 01:20 AM	#6
Lew Silverman VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,435 Likes: 371 Liked 129 Times in 59 Posts	Re: What's up with NHRA logic? .................... Lew __________________ Lew Silverman #2070 "The Wagon Master" N/SA Last edited by Lew Silverman; 03-04-2012 at 01:44 AM.

03-04-2012, 07:15 PM	#7
philip miles Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What's up with NHRA logic? For the racers that can afford to travel the country and wait for a race to break out, you don't have a dog in this fight with NHRA on this subject. For the racers that have limited time and finances to sport a Stock Eliminator car, NHRA's policy on grade points is totally stupid. I could understand if the field was full with grade 2 racers and there aren't any open spots, that's the policy that I would understand. There are now 6 spots open for the Gator Nats in Stock, what is NHRA thinking not to let grade 1 racers to enter. The people who run our sport in the offices of NHRA are not racers for sure. They are just pencil pushers with no common sence and just repeat what they are told to say! Can't think out of the box that makes business sence. It's not the fault of the racer that NHRA can't keep tracks under their wing, it hurts the racer when a track changes associations because the issues that NHRA have with the tracks and doesn't care if they fix it. PBIR went IHRA because of the past D2 director, nobody stepped in from NHRA to see if they could fix the issues, instead the track was sent adrift. There are 5 tracks with in 100 miles from me, none are NHRA, closest is Orlando, 200 miles away. There are also no National opens anywhere in the D2 area, the one that I used to be able to go to was the old Moroso, now PBIR's Citrius Nats. Casey Miles 248H Stock?