Is the Hybrid really the solution?

SStockDart · 04-10-2012, 01:34 AM

Works for me......I think the solution (other than a political comment) is to drive less and drink more. (at home)

NewHemi · 04-10-2012, 01:57 AM

Now you are talking...

I had hoped that this post qualifed as either social, economic, or auto trend reporting..

Don't make it political.... please. You dont know how hard it is to avoid posting political comments..........But I am trying....

David
The New Hemi Guy

Billy Nees · 04-10-2012, 07:40 AM

I would love to see a complete carbon footprint study on exactly how much energy is expended to scratch build a hybrid vs. a conventional car, how great the difference is and if it ever can be recovered. I doubt that the Greenies ever consider this.
And OBTW, those giant windmills and solar panels too!

Dick Butler · 04-10-2012, 07:45 AM

Isnt there an issue of the cost to recharge an electric car? Seemed that even though you didnt buy gas the electric costs were worse than the gas price per miles.

tj310 · 04-10-2012, 07:58 AM

Up here in the great white north you need to heat the interior and defrost the windsheild 6 months of the year. This takes a lot of electricity. ---Trevor

Dick Butler · 04-10-2012, 08:02 AM

What ever happened to Hydrogen cars? Water as only bi-product and fueling stations needed. Probably will be developed by an engineering college as a student project. Anyone driving a Chevy Suburban with the Hybrid motor?

chris ok · 04-10-2012, 04:31 PM

I worked for Toyota many years. The hybrids have been pretty darn good overall. We had a shortage of 12 voltbatteries for a time in 95. Had 7 or 8 Priuses waiting for one for too long.
The smell inside of a new one when we prepped them was like plastic poison. Lasted quite a while too. They the first gens all had a distinctive smell, but so many cars do.
We sure made a lot of garbage preppingthem with all the parts wrapped in cardboard and plastic wraps.
Ford and Nissan bought the technology for their hybrids.
Toyota bought into Subaru which is why it still exists for its battery technology.
Toyota is an impressive car brand and likes to be the best.
Hybrid camrys and highlanders followed and they were excellent too. Get a hybrid highlander rear electric diff, it makes 37hp.Thats a lot for an electric motor.
The problem is no good maintenance to earn money from. Techs starve.
I left in 08, but I know they are still better then most.
I've been told trucks will follow for hybrids.
I was also told Honda was working on diesels a while back. Still have not seen one.

04-10-2012, 01:34 AM	#1
SStockDart VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arizona, Texan forever Posts: 1,176 Likes: 879 Liked 574 Times in 212 Posts	Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution? Works for me......I think the solution (other than a political comment) is to drive less and drink more. (at home) __________________ Gary Hansen - SS/FA 4911, B/SA 4911

04-10-2012, 01:57 AM	#2
NewHemi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 472 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution? Now you are talking... I had hoped that this post qualifed as either social, economic, or auto trend reporting.. Don't make it political.... please. You dont know how hard it is to avoid posting political comments..........But I am trying.... David The New Hemi Guy

04-10-2012, 07:40 AM	#3
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,496 Likes: 3,600 Liked 7,760 Times in 1,741 Posts	Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution? I would love to see a complete carbon footprint study on exactly how much energy is expended to scratch build a hybrid vs. a conventional car, how great the difference is and if it ever can be recovered. I doubt that the Greenies ever consider this. And OBTW, those giant windmills and solar panels too! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

04-10-2012, 07:45 AM	#4
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution? Isnt there an issue of the cost to recharge an electric car? Seemed that even though you didnt buy gas the electric costs were worse than the gas price per miles.

04-10-2012, 07:58 AM	#5
tj310 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dresden On. Canada Posts: 460 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution? Up here in the great white north you need to heat the interior and defrost the windsheild 6 months of the year. This takes a lot of electricity. ---Trevor

04-10-2012, 08:02 AM	#6
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution? What ever happened to Hydrogen cars? Water as only bi-product and fueling stations needed. Probably will be developed by an engineering college as a student project. Anyone driving a Chevy Suburban with the Hybrid motor?

04-10-2012, 04:31 PM	#7
chris ok Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Long Island, New york Posts: 592 Likes: 131 Liked 46 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Is the Hybrid really the solution? I worked for Toyota many years. The hybrids have been pretty darn good overall. We had a shortage of 12 voltbatteries for a time in 95. Had 7 or 8 Priuses waiting for one for too long. The smell inside of a new one when we prepped them was like plastic poison. Lasted quite a while too. They the first gens all had a distinctive smell, but so many cars do. We sure made a lot of garbage preppingthem with all the parts wrapped in cardboard and plastic wraps. Ford and Nissan bought the technology for their hybrids. Toyota bought into Subaru which is why it still exists for its battery technology. Toyota is an impressive car brand and likes to be the best. Hybrid camrys and highlanders followed and they were excellent too. Get a hybrid highlander rear electric diff, it makes 37hp.Thats a lot for an electric motor. The problem is no good maintenance to earn money from. Techs starve. I left in 08, but I know they are still better then most. I've been told trucks will follow for hybrids. I was also told Honda was working on diesels a while back. Still have not seen one. Last edited by chris ok; 04-10-2012 at 04:34 PM. Reason: more info.