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Old 05-02-2012, 04:23 PM   #1
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No, the track is never particularly fast. They resurfaced the starting line this year. That has me a little concerned. Have a safe trip. We'll see ya there.
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:32 PM   #2
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The starting line is actually at 1882 and the track runs 4.4 feet uphill.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:59 PM   #3
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The starting line is actually at 1882 and the track runs 4.4 feet uphill.
wierd, i was always a tenth faster at GB than at kearney (bracket car)....old track (1979ish) not the new one...
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wierd, i was always a tenth faster at GB than at kearney (bracket car)....old track (1979ish) not the new one...
Probably because both the old and new Kearney tracks are about 250 feet higher than Great Bend.

By the way, Google Earth uses ancient USGS topographic maps for its elevation measurements. Those figures often predate any construction on the site so the numbers, (like Atlanta rising ten feet at the 330' mark...LMAO!), are pretty unreliable. Use survey charts for more accurate reference.
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Probably because both the old and new Kearney tracks are about 250 feet higher than Great Bend.

By the way, Google Earth uses ancient USGS topographic maps for its elevation measurements. Those figures often predate any construction on the site so the numbers, (like Atlanta rising ten feet at the 330' mark...LMAO!), are pretty unreliable. Use survey charts for more accurate reference.
Let's hope that's the case Bret. Otherwise Pomona is not a LEGAL track. At one percent it can be no more than 13.2 feet, and it shows 19 feet. What's the survey chart show?

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Pomona is...ummm..."different". The track was grandfathered in when the "one percent grade" rule went into effect in the early 1960s. Pomona really IS 16.7 feet downhill.
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Thanks Bret,

I told Kandra way back in 2001 that Pomona looked to be a little too much downhill. Now I know. It makes one wonder though, that since it was "grandfathered in" but has been redone several times, why it wasn't corrected.

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Pomona is...ummm..."different". The track was grandfathered in when the "one percent grade" rule went into effect in the early 1960s. Pomona really IS 16.7 feet downhill.
First time I went there in '68 with my Jr Stocker, I floated the valves at the MPH lights. At that time, being from Div 4, I had never run in that kind of air. Didn't know it was down hill too. LOL I couldn't believe how fast it was. Had a local tell me "this track isn't fast". Really? I wondered where the hell he was used to running. If you ain't bad fast at Pomona, especially in early Feb, you just ain't fast.
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No, the track is never particularly fast. They resurfaced the starting line this year. That has me a little concerned. Have a safe trip. We'll see ya there.
Mike, I had no problems with the starting line last year, when I still had the 10.5" tires. Hope they didn't mess it up. LOL
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