How much longer do we have? - Page 3

Ron Ortiz · 05-03-2012, 03:34 PM

Do they make bench racing seats, just wondering?

Ron Ortiz
U/SA sustained speed for a long duration

Jack McCarthy · 05-03-2012, 07:51 PM

ron,
you sir are allowed a super trick ultra balanced killer $2000 crank to go with your soup can 2bbl that wont RPM over 5200 > and a six slat park bench for a front seat (must be green).

are you serious "how much longer" hell about 10 years ago when they did away with the spring & duration rule since then the bull**** just keeps on coming > $1000 roller rockers this year > $2000 for crank next year... we are DONE.

captain jack

Pvt Parts · 05-03-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

The cars in stock should have stock seats. Seats are available you just have to look.

Cranks are ok if they are oem size and weight, with a stroke of + / - .015" and stock journal size with a tolerance of +.000'' and - .060''.

They are not.

Phillip marvetz · 05-03-2012, 11:56 PM

Jack, Ding ding ding. You win the beer of your choice.

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Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

ron,
you sir are allowed a super trick ultra balanced killer $2000 crank to go with your soup can 2bbl that wont RPM over 5200 > and a six slat park bench for a front seat (must be green).

are you serious "how much longer" hell about 10 years ago when they did away with the spring & duration rule since then the bull**** just keeps on coming > $1000 roller rockers this year > $2000 for crank next year... we are DONE.

captain jack

Jim Bailey · 05-04-2012, 12:25 AM

Just my $.02.... If a Stocker or Super Stocker, runs quicker than 10 flat and/or 130.00 mph, they should have an 8 point "cage", after market drag seats, and along with the mandatory full faced helmet, a Hans device should also be included as mandatory. JB

Phillip marvetz · 05-04-2012, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bailey

Just my $.02.... If a Stocker or Super Stocker, runs quicker than 10 flat and/or 130.00 mph, they should have an 8 point "cage", after market drag seats, and along with the mandatory full faced helmet, a Hans device should also be included as mandatory. JB

Will my $10 helmet be o.k? lol

Jeff Lee · 05-04-2012, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

ron,
you sir are allowed a super trick ultra balanced killer $2000 crank to go with your soup can 2bbl that wont RPM over 5200 > and a six slat park bench for a front seat (must be green).

are you serious "how much longer" hell about 10 years ago when they did away with the spring & duration rule since then the bull**** just keeps on coming > $1000 roller rockers this year > $2000 for crank next year... we are DONE.

captain jack

I'd say if you spent or were offered $1000 rockers that are within the new rules, somebody is trying to screw you royal!

SS Engine Guy · 05-04-2012, 03:48 AM

Respectfully, Jeff, there are rocker sets out there that actually do cost that much with the modifications allowed to fit the application. Some applications can't have these types of modifications done physically. These are special built pieces that will pass the "new rule" but offer advantages over the common roller rocker. They are on the approved list but the modifications are not (in my opinion) in the spirit of the rule. Actually, we don't know what will go thru tech under the new rule until it is either kicked or passed. But I know of at least a couple that have been looked at and passed. Mostly because the people looking at them didn't know what they were looking for. That is the biggest reason some of us were against allowing rockers. I'm all for the interest of preventing engine failures in any way possible. Its like the disc brake rule that everyone wanted in the interest of saftey. What was really wanted was dual calipers or more holding power on the rear tires to allow higher stall speeds. I have stopped too many low 9 sec. drum brake heavy superstockers for years without any problems, however, I agree the discs are better at stopping. But stopping and saftey was, for many, a "smoke screen" as a way to get a car to work better off a chip in the first 60'.

Jim Wahl · 05-04-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz

Will my $10 helmet be o.k? lol

Yes, but only on YOUR head! Jim

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Chad Rhodes · 05-04-2012, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

Yes, but only on YOUR head! Jim

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You read my mind

05-03-2012, 03:34 PM	#21
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: How much longer do we have? Do they make bench racing seats, just wondering? Ron Ortiz U/SA sustained speed for a long duration __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

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Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,322 Likes: 29 Liked 473 Times in 117 Posts	Re: How much longer do we have? ron, you sir are allowed a super trick ultra balanced killer $2000 crank to go with your soup can 2bbl that wont RPM over 5200 > and a six slat park bench for a front seat (must be green). are you serious "how much longer" hell about 10 years ago when they did away with the spring & duration rule since then the bull**** just keeps on coming > $1000 roller rockers this year > $2000 for crank next year... we are DONE. captain jack __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

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Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 674 Likes: 15 Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts	Re: How much longer do we have? Just my $.02.... If a Stocker or Super Stocker, runs quicker than 10 flat and/or 130.00 mph, they should have an 8 point "cage", after market drag seats, and along with the mandatory full faced helmet, a Hans device should also be included as mandatory. JB

05-04-2012, 03:48 AM	#28
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: How much longer do we have? Respectfully, Jeff, there are rocker sets out there that actually do cost that much with the modifications allowed to fit the application. Some applications can't have these types of modifications done physically. These are special built pieces that will pass the "new rule" but offer advantages over the common roller rocker. They are on the approved list but the modifications are not (in my opinion) in the spirit of the rule. Actually, we don't know what will go thru tech under the new rule until it is either kicked or passed. But I know of at least a couple that have been looked at and passed. Mostly because the people looking at them didn't know what they were looking for. That is the biggest reason some of us were against allowing rockers. I'm all for the interest of preventing engine failures in any way possible. Its like the disc brake rule that everyone wanted in the interest of saftey. What was really wanted was dual calipers or more holding power on the rear tires to allow higher stall speeds. I have stopped too many low 9 sec. drum brake heavy superstockers for years without any problems, however, I agree the discs are better at stopping. But stopping and saftey was, for many, a "smoke screen" as a way to get a car to work better off a chip in the first 60'. Last edited by SS Engine Guy; 05-04-2012 at 03:53 AM. Reason: spelling