"Live" from Route 66 Jegs All-Stars Nationals in Joliet

Stocker 2 · 07-02-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SS/GSI

Fuel check has been a s#*show at lots of events, and I can say with confidence that the fuel test machine was most likely not properly sanitized or neutralized, whatever you wanna call it......

If the fuel test machine was "not properly sanitized or neutralized", how were all the other racers in Stock, Super Stock, Comp, Pro Stock and Pro Stock Bike passing fuel check? Everyone else passed fuel check the round Cour was DQ'd.

SS/GSI · 07-02-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Stocker 2

If the fuel test machine was "not properly sanitized or neutralized", how were all the other racers in Stock, Super Stock, Comp, Pro Stock and Pro Stock Bike passing fuel check? Everyone else passed fuel check the round Cour was DQ'd.

Simple answer, C-11, that why we swiched to a different fuel.

Ed Wright · 07-02-2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SS/GSI

Simple answer, C-11, that why we swiched to a different fuel.

I've never known anybody to have a problem passing with C11, C12 is another story. Sure he was using C11?

SS/GSI · 07-02-2012, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I've never known anybody to have a problem passing with C11, C12 is another story. Sure he was using C11?

That's what I heard, might be wrong! And I've never heard about C-12 having issues? VP might wanna start making a fuel that can at least last the weekend at the fuel check, lol!

KRatcliff · 07-02-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I've never known anybody to have a problem passing with C11, C12 is another story. Sure he was using C11?

Never a problem with C11, but you shouldn't take C12 on an empty stomach. It will certainly cause problems at the trailer.

BBF67 · 07-02-2012, 10:44 PM

After failing fuel check the first qualifying run and before adding fresh fuel, did he change the fuel filter in the car? Fresh fuel run through a contaminated fuel filter can cause problems when the fuel is checked.

Sean Cour · 07-03-2012, 12:13 AM

Ok, so here's the story. Back at home, before leaving to head east, I switched from C16 to C12. Like an idiot, I drained the system from the pump side, and not the return side. I let the system stay open for a couple of days, obviously doing the appropriate steps to clean filters. After my father left with the truck, I realized that I didn't drain from return side. I told my father when he arrived in Chicago to drain the return side until C12 came out.
My son made his first pass, and failed fuel check. We flushed, cleaned, and ran fresh 12 through the system. Drove the car back to fuel check, where the official said "I've never seen someone clean up a dirty fuel so well, it's perfect!" My son went on to run his last two qualifiers and first two rounds without a hiccup. He ran his third round, and fuel checked. The official told him that "the fuel is a little flat.". My son came back to the trailer, where he told me that the fuel was a little flat. I said what does that mean? I asked if the official said anything about it being close to failing. My son said no.
He goes out on Sunday morning and wins the fourth round, and fails fuel check. I ask the official about the problem, and he tells me that he said to my son "I told him it was on the edge of failing". I asked my son this, and he said that the official said nothing about it being borderline failing. I asked the official this, and he said, " well I told him it was flat". I asked what the heck is flat? The official says "I have to DQ him for fuel." My son and I go back to the trailer, where my son precedes to take both jugs of C12 back down to the fuel check trailer and have them tested. Both jugs check perfect.
I must have not gotten the fuel filters clean enough! I feel like a complete boob! This was my sons first national, after just turning 18 a few weeks ago. I really feel terrible for him......he did nothing wrong!

SSMA 3838 · 07-03-2012, 07:14 AM

We have never ever been told our fuel was on the edge, until this year. Once at Indy, and once at the Chicago div. I did nothing to improve it, and it checked perfect during all other checks. Seems like there is something more going on lately.

Michael Beard · 07-03-2012, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean Cour

I must have not gotten the fuel filters clean enough!

The fuel filters contaminated the fuel after having made five complete runs plus driving to and from?

I drain the system, pump out via the return line, pour in a splash and pump, splash n' pump one more time. Never touched the two inline filters used, and it checked perfect -- and moreover, it didn't change the rest of the weekend.

While it's admirable for you to take the blame upon yourself, it's not a very comforting explanation from a fuel standpoint! Why is this stuff *that* unstable and *that* sensitive?

07-02-2012, 10:44 PM	#6
BBF67 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 89 Likes: 0 Liked 8 Times in 4 Posts	Re: "Live" from Route 66 Jegs All-Stars Nationals in Joliet After failing fuel check the first qualifying run and before adding fresh fuel, did he change the fuel filter in the car? Fresh fuel run through a contaminated fuel filter can cause problems when the fuel is checked.

07-03-2012, 12:13 AM	#7
Sean Cour Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 459 Likes: 176 Liked 125 Times in 40 Posts	Re: "Live" from Route 66 Jegs All-Stars Nationals in Joliet Ok, so here's the story. Back at home, before leaving to head east, I switched from C16 to C12. Like an idiot, I drained the system from the pump side, and not the return side. I let the system stay open for a couple of days, obviously doing the appropriate steps to clean filters. After my father left with the truck, I realized that I didn't drain from return side. I told my father when he arrived in Chicago to drain the return side until C12 came out. My son made his first pass, and failed fuel check. We flushed, cleaned, and ran fresh 12 through the system. Drove the car back to fuel check, where the official said "I've never seen someone clean up a dirty fuel so well, it's perfect!" My son went on to run his last two qualifiers and first two rounds without a hiccup. He ran his third round, and fuel checked. The official told him that "the fuel is a little flat.". My son came back to the trailer, where he told me that the fuel was a little flat. I said what does that mean? I asked if the official said anything about it being close to failing. My son said no. He goes out on Sunday morning and wins the fourth round, and fails fuel check. I ask the official about the problem, and he tells me that he said to my son "I told him it was on the edge of failing". I asked my son this, and he said that the official said nothing about it being borderline failing. I asked the official this, and he said, " well I told him it was flat". I asked what the heck is flat? The official says "I have to DQ him for fuel." My son and I go back to the trailer, where my son precedes to take both jugs of C12 back down to the fuel check trailer and have them tested. Both jugs check perfect. I must have not gotten the fuel filters clean enough! I feel like a complete boob! This was my sons first national, after just turning 18 a few weeks ago. I really feel terrible for him......he did nothing wrong! __________________ Sean Cour T6066 ladle

07-03-2012, 07:14 AM	#8
SSMA 3838 Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 19 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: "Live" from Route 66 Jegs All-Stars Nationals in Joliet We have never ever been told our fuel was on the edge, until this year. Once at Indy, and once at the Chicago div. I did nothing to improve it, and it checked perfect during all other checks. Seems like there is something more going on lately.