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Old 07-09-2012, 10:16 AM   #81
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Bo and Foghorn Leghorn bring it on no ego problems here.Just a desire th whip both your asses with my COPO.The time has come.
As to the other post about Paying for Top Stock.Each class has a spnosor like Summit or Jegs and Top Stock had GM until GM got in financial trouble and pulled out.At that Time Bo stepped up and Sponsored the class.That is what the paying was all about.For the new factory class its just because the big 3 have all put cars out there that it makes sense for the sanctioning bodies to run them heads up since I am sure everybody likes to see which company can put out the faster car.It would have been better if no one could have in anyway modified their car and then run them heads up but that was not to be.Furthermore for the big blower cars they can only run heads up if they are not tubbed out.
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Old 07-09-2012, 11:09 AM   #82
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Bo and Foghorn Leghorn bring it on no ego problems here.Just a desire th whip both your asses with my COPO.The time has come.
As to the other post about Paying for Top Stock.Each class has a spnosor like Summit or Jegs and Top Stock had GM until GM got in financial trouble and pulled out.At that Time Bo stepped up and Sponsored the class.That is what the paying was all about.For the new factory class its just because the big 3 have all put cars out there that it makes sense for the sanctioning bodies to run them heads up since I am sure everybody likes to see which company can put out the faster car.It would have been better if no one could have in anyway modified their car and then run them heads up but that was not to be.Furthermore for the big blower cars they can only run heads up if they are not tubbed out.
Enjoy your new COPO and have Fun!
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:26 PM   #83
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Thanks if I ever get it.
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Thanks if I ever get it.
I just sent another e-mail to Jamie!
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Old 07-09-2012, 07:11 PM   #85
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I hope you guys get them in time for Indy!
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Bruce , why do you hate the new cars so much ? Dont you think the guys who ran the 56 chevy with the 265 like the guys who ran the 69 corvette with the 427 in 1970 ? or how about the guys who ran the 55&56 chevy with the 265 , do you think they were happy when the 283 fi came out in 57 and smoked the 55& 56 with the 265 .

Lighten up and just enjoy your car and quit telling everyone one else there is soft , there is not a real car , NHRA did them a favor , they did not have to work on theirs . When I got my car it ran 10.60 from the factory and I have been working on it for a solid year . And really your vette is stock ? stock pistons , stock rods , stock cam ? stock tires ? you get the point it is not stock and it did not come that way from the factory.

For the record I bought my 08 CJ for 65k , I have put another 35k in it and it only runs a second under ( 9.30 ) and I work on it all the time just like you work on your car . When I put my new Patterson piece in it it will cost me another 30k and I will still have to work on it and worry about AHFS putting weight on it . So please just give the new car owners a break with the BS you keep throwing at us .

By the way I like your vette as Im a vette guy , 1984 c4 , 2002 z06 with a Lingenfelter blower , 2008 zo6 stock from the factory owned them all from day one new

Paul , everybody knows CJ can out run the Mopars and the Copo that why nobody will sponsor the class (LMAO) Just ask Jeff CJ's ran him out of ADRL
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:36 PM   #87
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Bruce , why do you hate the new cars so much ? Dont you think the guys who ran the 56 chevy with the 265 like the guys who ran the 69 corvette with the 427 in 1970 ? or how about the guys who ran the 55&56 chevy with the 265 , do you think they were happy when the 283 fi came out in 57 and smoked the 55& 56 with the 265 .

Lighten up and just enjoy your car and quit telling everyone one else there is soft , there is not a real car , NHRA did them a favor , they did not have to work on theirs . When I got my car it ran 10.60 from the factory and I have been working on it for a solid year . And really your vette is stock ? stock pistons , stock rods , stock cam ? stock tires ? you get the point it is not stock and it did not come that way from the factory.

For the record I bought my 08 CJ for 65k , I have put another 35k in it and it only runs a second under ( 9.30 ) and I work on it all the time just like you work on your car . When I put my new Patterson piece in it it will cost me another 30k and I will still have to work on it and worry about AHFS putting weight on it . So please just give the new car owners a break with the BS you keep throwing at us .

By the way I like your vette as Im a vette guy , 1984 c4 , 2002 z06 with a Lingenfelter blower , 2008 zo6 stock from the factory owned them all from day one new

Paul , everybody knows CJ can out run the Mopars and the Copo that why nobody will sponsor the class (LMAO) Just ask Jeff CJ's ran him out of ADRL
Thank you so much - finally someone is saying what I have been wanting to say

Get ready to be blasted - hell I get crap when I erase what I was going to say and replace it with ...........


BTW Jackie Alley and Andy ran the same at Fallon (9.82) and she ran 9.56 at Chicago where Bo ran 9.25 - no chance we are competitive

One more thing - we have worked our V10 a lot and continue to but not so we can run the blower cars


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Old 07-09-2012, 09:49 PM   #88
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Bruce , why do you hate the new cars so much ? Dont you think the guys who ran the 56 chevy with the 265 like the guys who ran the 69 corvette with the 427 in 1970 ? or how about the guys who ran the 55&56 chevy with the 265 , do you think they were happy when the 283 fi came out in 57 and smoked the 55& 56 with the 265 .

Lighten up and just enjoy your car and quit telling everyone one else there is soft , there is not a real car , NHRA did them a favor , they did not have to work on theirs . When I got my car it ran 10.60 from the factory and I have been working on it for a solid year . And really your vette is stock ? stock pistons , stock rods , stock cam ? stock tires ? you get the point it is not stock and it did not come that way from the factory.

For the record I bought my 08 CJ for 65k , I have put another 35k in it and it only runs a second under ( 9.30 ) and I work on it all the time just like you work on your car . When I put my new Patterson piece in it it will cost me another 30k and I will still have to work on it and worry about AHFS putting weight on it . So please just give the new car owners a break with the BS you keep throwing at us .

By the way I like your vette as Im a vette guy , 1984 c4 , 2002 z06 with a Lingenfelter blower , 2008 zo6 stock from the factory owned them all from day one new

Paul , everybody knows CJ can out run the Mopars and the Copo that why nobody will sponsor the class (LMAO) Just ask Jeff CJ's ran him out of ADRL
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I'm not the only person on the planet who has problems with the new cars in Stock. I may be the most vocal but please understand that I don't come out here without support from a lot of racers.

You guys keep bringing up long-ago sanctioning transgressions like it somehow makes it OK for you to do the same now. It doesn't. The racers "back in the day" didn't have the Internet. Soooo, some of us will continue to come out and remind the racing community that nhra and the OEM's are cheating hard working every day folks. That's all. It's no big deal!

Keep your checkbook handy. I understand some of the new car owners are spending Comp type money on their engines, like 100+k. And they are coming apart.

On the flip side of this money coin, how many of these cars can they sell before saturation settles in? They may have already hit the high water mark as wealthy buyers and people willing to hock their financial futures dwindle.

In the end, it's the hypocrisy by nhra, the OEM's and the people who think this behavior is perfectly legitimate that has created this problem. Sorry if you think I'm being a little heavy on you guys.

For the record I do not hate these cars or any living breathing creature for that matter.
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Old 07-09-2012, 10:22 PM   #89
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Are there not other classes out there that are just as bogus as the new cars? Could've sworn there was care that went 2+ sec under at the CIC race in Belle Rose. Why are we not bashing any of the other soft index classes? Do they not deserve the same repercussions? Were these other cars not afforded the same advantages since NHRA provided them with an under-factored engine combo? Also, were the higher classes being created not a proper median resolution? Is that really not enough? What is enough? Would if fix any problems significant enough to create financial, economic, or class growth?
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Bruce , why do you hate the new cars so much ? Dont you think the guys who ran the 56 chevy with the 265 like the guys who ran the 69 corvette with the 427 in 1970 ? or how about the guys who ran the 55&56 chevy with the 265 , do you think they were happy when the 283 fi came out in 57 and smoked the 55& 56 with the 265....
Ed Wright can answer that. It would have been about halfway through his racing career.
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