Shop, need suggestions

Keith 944 · 07-10-2012, 11:15 AM

i love the lift, made the wife help me change out both transmissions at our other house's garage, on the floor. she agreed a lift would be part of this new garage. (sometimes it's all in the way you ask, lol) also, i was able to drive about 20 miles, pick it up, (they had 10 in stock) and make a heck of a deal on it with all the other accessories! installed it myself within a day. had about 4 others help lift it in place after i assembled it on the floor... i also used it to lift the front of the motor home while i did the brakes, i think it is the best tool i ever bought!

Ken Miele · 07-10-2012, 04:37 PM

Sounds good, I am looking into a Mohawk. They are a little pricy, but they fit well when you have 10ft ceiling. The hydraulics are above the lift and adjustable. All other lifts for low ceiling height have the hydraulics run across the floor in a 2 inch high strip. I don't want that little hump on the floor.

Keith 944 · 07-10-2012, 06:19 PM

yep, that hump or any bar on the floor would just be in the way, have you thought about a 4 post lift as an option? they now make them on wheels so they can be moved around the shop when not in use. some have very nice features.
also for cabinets, i found the new style craftsman to be very nice and sturdy, the doors open with space inside for cans etc. i bought 2, a floor cabinet and a wall unit. much better than some of the flimsy alternatives, took a lot of time shopping and looking at these, i for one like to be able to touch and see something before i buy. these were nice and not bad on price...all my other cabinets/ workbenches, i kept from my other shop. gave them a coat of truck bed-liner paint, what a difference..

p.s. very nice overhaul of your shop, did not see a fire ext. though, always a good idea

Ken Miele · 07-10-2012, 07:32 PM

I thought about a four post, but even though you can move it around, the two post takes up less space. With a two post I can have a car on either side and I’m able to keep the middle open for street car work.

I was thinking on going with Ulti-MATE cabinets. They are reasonable priced and come in white.

I went with the metal for the interior walls instead of drywall. I hate painting, and the drywall would have made a mess of everything, with tape and painting. It was a pain just moving stuff from one side to another, as you can tell by the mess. Drywall would have been a nightmare. I like the idea of being able to get behind the wall for electric or air with just removing a few screws. I ran all my air lines behind the wall. I do have a fire extinguisher right next to the door as you come in.

Here a few more shots, I built these enclosures on the sides and one in the back. I was tired of looking at everything. The one in the back is for light fabrication, drill press, bandsaw, grinders, welder and to store the air compressor. The sides are for oil storage, chemicals and a utility closest for brooms, vacuum, stuff like that.

FrankChastain · 07-11-2012, 07:04 AM

Here is a couple of storage cabinet places and one has free ship.....

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...age-organizers

http://www.u-sav.com/garagestoragedi...Fcdk7AodGklolQ

cicero819 · 07-11-2012, 07:56 AM

Wow! nice garage Keith, a lot of hard work was dedicated to your enterprise. Ken that was a smart move to go metal on the walls, my garage will have plastic sheating on the wall and ceilings for ease of cleaning. For your floor your can have your choice of epoxy coats now which weren't available to me at the time(mine was buffed and polish since I had a friend in the ciment business) a great place for cabinets are the medical field companies that renovate Doctors and medical clinics, they always have a good selection of new and old(the quality are usually top notch and made of plywood). One of the best idea I've come across is to install all compressors and vacuum outside in a separate room, to bring the noise down(we all need to protect our hearing).lol Great thread Ken p.s. how is the motor coming did you find out what caused it or was it just normal wear and tear?

Paul Hellenberg · 07-11-2012, 08:40 AM

Good Morning all

Good thoughts. I built a shop that I thought would be too big 35' wide and 45' long, 10' ceilings 2 12' X 10' overhead door and small guest quarters as I was getting back into racing after a long retirement. I have a PDF plans as well as some photo's e-mail if you would like some copies.
Almost 2 years ago I had the heat/ac installed, insulated, OSB, and metal covering. Also put in a used house Natural Gas furnace and AC.

It now houses race work area as well as 37' Gold Rush 5th wheel.

Some thoughts.
-Never Big enough
-Installing Metal is a real pain if not done during initial construction Cutting around electrical fixtures.
-Spray in insulation really worked exceeding well in walls.

Paul

Ken Miele · 07-11-2012, 04:49 PM

Claude,

It was just wear and tear I guess. The crank had over 600 runs, even though it was checked every year, I guess it was worn out. Hopefully we can use aftermarket cranks next year.

The metal walls also hold up a little better if a jack or tool hits them. I did not find it to much trouble putting the walls up, it was the ceiling that beat me up. I should have rented a scaffold. Here is a picture of what I made to do the ceiling.

Paul, I have to agree, you can never go big enough when building a garage.

Jack Matyas · 07-12-2012, 08:11 PM

Not sure where to start ( me without words ? ) - built my shop 20 years ago and things have changed a bunch and so it'll be time for a facelift soon not to mention getting rid of many , many years of clutter - some stuff has been here the entire time ( note the Winston signs ) .I've been slowly selling off things on E-Bay and Craigslist but just ask my wife - she'll tell you i've got a long way to go .

Maybe I need Sanford & Son to drop by and take a truckload or two ............This garage/workshop is a lesson in how to stuff 10lbs of stuff in a 5lb bag .Way too much ! ! !

There you go Ken - now everyone knows how unorganized I really am .Hope you're happy ..........I'll revisit after soon renovations are done - or at least started .

cicero819 · 07-12-2012, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Not sure where to start ( me without words ? ) - built my shop 20 years ago and things have changed a bunch and so it'll be time for a facelift soon not to mention getting rid of many , many years of clutter - some stuff has been here the entire time ( note the Winston signs ) .I've been slowly selling off things on E-Bay and Craigslist but just ask my wife - she'll tell you i've got a long way to go .

Maybe I need Sanford & Son to drop by and take a truckload or two ............This garage/workshop is a lesson in how to stuff 10lbs of stuff in a 5lb bag .Way too much ! ! !

There you go Ken - no everyone knows how unorganized I really am .Hope you're happy ..........I'll revisit after soon renovations are done - or at least started .

Jack where are you going to put your first 69 Camaro that you were fixing up(add another garage.lol Great looking house and garage.
Ken, for your car lift, you can always modify the rafters to allow more room to lift the car, I was just explaining to a friend that he shouldn't think of installing a pit, since most cities and township have banned them due to poor ventilation and danger of explosions. I like this thread, nice to see great idea of real garages, not crazy expensive salons F1 race cars on the wall(real ones). Bert and Paul great ideas, hope you don't mind the R&D (rob and duplicate) Claude

07-10-2012, 11:15 AM	#1
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,195 Likes: 1,162 Liked 1,885 Times in 578 Posts	Re: Shop, need suggestions i love the lift, made the wife help me change out both transmissions at our other house's garage, on the floor. she agreed a lift would be part of this new garage. (sometimes it's all in the way you ask, lol) also, i was able to drive about 20 miles, pick it up, (they had 10 in stock) and make a heck of a deal on it with all the other accessories! installed it myself within a day. had about 4 others help lift it in place after i assembled it on the floor... i also used it to lift the front of the motor home while i did the brakes, i think it is the best tool i ever bought! __________________ KEITH MAYERS 2-1/2 X somebody Still many X nobody

07-10-2012, 04:37 PM	#2
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,862 Likes: 462 Liked 16,563 Times in 1,523 Posts	Re: Shop, need suggestions Sounds good, I am looking into a Mohawk. They are a little pricy, but they fit well when you have 10ft ceiling. The hydraulics are above the lift and adjustable. All other lifts for low ceiling height have the hydraulics run across the floor in a 2 inch high strip. I don't want that little hump on the floor.

07-10-2012, 06:19 PM	#3
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,195 Likes: 1,162 Liked 1,885 Times in 578 Posts	Re: Shop, need suggestions yep, that hump or any bar on the floor would just be in the way, have you thought about a 4 post lift as an option? they now make them on wheels so they can be moved around the shop when not in use. some have very nice features. also for cabinets, i found the new style craftsman to be very nice and sturdy, the doors open with space inside for cans etc. i bought 2, a floor cabinet and a wall unit. much better than some of the flimsy alternatives, took a lot of time shopping and looking at these, i for one like to be able to touch and see something before i buy. these were nice and not bad on price...all my other cabinets/ workbenches, i kept from my other shop. gave them a coat of truck bed-liner paint, what a difference.. p.s. very nice overhaul of your shop, did not see a fire ext. though, always a good idea __________________ KEITH MAYERS 2-1/2 X somebody Still many X nobody Last edited by Keith 944; 07-10-2012 at 06:25 PM.

07-10-2012, 07:32 PM	#4
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,862 Likes: 462 Liked 16,563 Times in 1,523 Posts	Re: Shop, need suggestions I thought about a four post, but even though you can move it around, the two post takes up less space. With a two post I can have a car on either side and I’m able to keep the middle open for street car work. I was thinking on going with Ulti-MATE cabinets. They are reasonable priced and come in white. I went with the metal for the interior walls instead of drywall. I hate painting, and the drywall would have made a mess of everything, with tape and painting. It was a pain just moving stuff from one side to another, as you can tell by the mess. Drywall would have been a nightmare. I like the idea of being able to get behind the wall for electric or air with just removing a few screws. I ran all my air lines behind the wall. I do have a fire extinguisher right next to the door as you come in. Here a few more shots, I built these enclosures on the sides and one in the back. I was tired of looking at everything. The one in the back is for light fabrication, drill press, bandsaw, grinders, welder and to store the air compressor. The sides are for oil storage, chemicals and a utility closest for brooms, vacuum, stuff like that. Attached Thumbnails

07-11-2012, 07:04 AM	#5
FrankChastain Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Trussville, Alabama-Originally from Vidalia,GA Posts: 642 Likes: 9 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Shop, need suggestions *Here is a couple of storage cabinet places and one has free ship.....* http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...age-organizers http://www.u-sav.com/garagestoragedi...Fcdk7AodGklolQ

07-11-2012, 07:56 AM	#6
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 69 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Shop, need suggestions Wow! nice garage Keith, a lot of hard work was dedicated to your enterprise. Ken that was a smart move to go metal on the walls, my garage will have plastic sheating on the wall and ceilings for ease of cleaning. For your floor your can have your choice of epoxy coats now which weren't available to me at the time(mine was buffed and polish since I had a friend in the ciment business) a great place for cabinets are the medical field companies that renovate Doctors and medical clinics, they always have a good selection of new and old(the quality are usually top notch and made of plywood). One of the best idea I've come across is to install all compressors and vacuum outside in a separate room, to bring the noise down(we all need to protect our hearing).lol Great thread Ken p.s. how is the motor coming did you find out what caused it or was it just normal wear and tear?

07-11-2012, 08:40 AM	#7
Paul Hellenberg Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 41035 Posts: 243 Likes: 3 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Shop, need suggestions Good Morning all Good thoughts. I built a shop that I thought would be too big 35' wide and 45' long, 10' ceilings 2 12' X 10' overhead door and small guest quarters as I was getting back into racing after a long retirement. I have a PDF plans as well as some photo's e-mail if you would like some copies. Almost 2 years ago I had the heat/ac installed, insulated, OSB, and metal covering. Also put in a used house Natural Gas furnace and AC. It now houses race work area as well as 37' Gold Rush 5th wheel. Some thoughts. -Never Big enough -Installing Metal is a real pain if not done during initial construction Cutting around electrical fixtures. -Spray in insulation really worked exceeding well in walls. Paul __________________ Paul Hellenberg 3881 SS and STK paul@hellenberg.us

07-11-2012, 04:49 PM	#8
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,862 Likes: 462 Liked 16,563 Times in 1,523 Posts	Re: Shop, need suggestions Claude, It was just wear and tear I guess. The crank had over 600 runs, even though it was checked every year, I guess it was worn out. Hopefully we can use aftermarket cranks next year. The metal walls also hold up a little better if a jack or tool hits them. I did not find it to much trouble putting the walls up, it was the ceiling that beat me up. I should have rented a scaffold. Here is a picture of what I made to do the ceiling. Paul, I have to agree, you can never go big enough when building a garage. Attached Thumbnails

07-12-2012, 08:11 PM	#9
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,932 Likes: 410 Liked 2,052 Times in 400 Posts	Re: Shop, need suggestions Not sure where to start ( me without words ? ) - built my shop 20 years ago and things have changed a bunch and so it'll be time for a facelift soon not to mention getting rid of many , many years of clutter - some stuff has been here the entire time ( note the Winston signs ) .I've been slowly selling off things on E-Bay and Craigslist but just ask my wife - she'll tell you i've got a long way to go . Maybe I need Sanford & Son to drop by and take a truckload or two ............This garage/workshop is a lesson in how to stuff 10lbs of stuff in a 5lb bag .Way too much ! ! ! There you go Ken - now everyone knows how unorganized I really am .Hope you're happy ..........I'll revisit after soon renovations are done - or at least started . Attached Thumbnails __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO Last edited by Jack Matyas; 07-13-2012 at 07:32 AM.