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Old 08-08-2012, 11:45 PM   #1
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I think the DOT Inspectors and State Patrol would be better off checking the vehicles that enter and leave the front gate. I have seen some scary rides enter the Zoo for the week at BIR.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:25 AM   #2
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I think the DOT Inspectors and State Patrol would be better off checking the vehicles that enter and leave the front gate. I have seen some scary rides enter the Zoo for the week at BIR.
True story.. Many years ago as we pulled in the gate we saw a rental car from Manitoba with the roof caved in and no windshield. They had rolled the car on the way down but no one got hurt and the car still ran. Must have been some 'splaining to do when they returned the car.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:40 AM   #3
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First of all most , if not all of the spotsman racers are not a money making comps. .And we are RV,s. If you are not over on 1 end or the other they can not stop you. I have worked the trucking bus. for 35 years I know. Corky
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:43 AM   #4
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"The Minnesota State Patrol along with the Minnesota Department of Transportation will be conducting a commercial vehicle inspection saturation Aug. 15-16 in the Brainerd area in conjunction with Brainerd International Raceway’s annual summer race event. The focus of the saturation will be compliance to Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations by the racing industry.

“Many individuals involved in the racing industry may not be aware of the fact that, depending on their circumstances, they may be required to follow federal guidelines related to driver, vehicle and safety equipment,” said State Patrol Lt. Tom Nelson. “The intent of the saturation is to educate these individuals on these issues to ensure safe travel for all motorists on Minnesota’s roadways.”"
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:47 PM   #5
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I like the word,"educate" in his statement. I wonder what the fee for this class will be?
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:43 PM   #6
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Why in the world wouldn't NHRA send some of the overpaid Board Members to Minnesota and have a "meeting" with the top brass of the MN-DOT and Highway Patrol.

Doesn't NHRA realize it won't be that hard to chase off a lot of safe vehicles that may or may not be classified as commercial vehicles, depending on who is looking at it.

I have no problem with being legal but let's look at economics for the area first and foremost. Who tows a $40K race car in a $25K trailer with a $75K motor home and doesn't pay attention to safety? Can the Brainerd area do without this event and not feel the "pinch" if a lot of racers stay home.

With the weak turnout for the Seattle event a couple weeks ago, they must have been checking tow vehicles out there too??

This is EXACTLY WHERE the NHRA membership money should go. Not into the Board and management salaries but rather, into communication to allow the NHRA members to get to a race. North Carolina finally got laws passed to exempt most sportsman racer's tow rigs.

C'mon NHRA, we know you read this Forum, how about an answer (errrr, I mean an excuse), while you are mainly concerned with the arrival time of your jet and your Escalade rental SUV to get to the event.

Sick of it,

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Old 08-09-2012, 04:52 PM   #7
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Jok, This is one of the many reasons why I no longer subscribe to the Dragster and let them have my perm number back. I am done with it after 20 years. All they think about is themselves!!! The Buick will be running brackets in the future. You think i'll pass fuel check????
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Does it include motorhomes?
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:16 AM   #9
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This is EXACTLY WHERE the NHRA membership money should go. Not into the Board and management salaries but rather, into communication to allow the NHRA members to get to a race. North Carolina finally got laws passed to exempt most sportsman racer's tow rigs.




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That is exactly right Jok! Dead on post!
This is a classic example of targeting a certain group, which the way I understand it, should not be done. We as a group, need to be pro-active in this situation. It is BS law enforcement. I am all for saftey and that should be number one, however, our rights as taxpayers and citizens should be right up there with saftey.
I was sitting at a stoplight the other day and next to me was a junky flatbed about 18' with a lawnmower on it. No lights at all on the rear. No saftey chains installed. Big junky front steer mower rolled to the front of the trailer as the truck pulled up due to no boomers at all holding it in position. Thats what caught my attention in the first place. Push down lever for the hitch didnt even have a bolt thru it to keep it from flipping up on a bump or a hard stop. And guess what? A DOT car right behind it. I figured this guy is in trouble. When the light changed the truck/trailer went straight and the DOT turned right. I had to wonder as I drove away why didn't this guy get pulled over and "educated". My conclusion: The $300. truck, the $50. dollar lawnmower and the $200. dollar trailer, there is no money in it. Pick on the trucking companies (and the racers now) that can pay the fine.
Everytime I have bought a new rig, I have taken pictures, specs, etc. to the DOT before I purchased it and they didn't have a clue as to what I was buying or what it would be used for legal or not. And Dpt. of Motor Vehicles only cared about the money I paid them.
I have been pulled over on busy interstates and been threatened, lectured and cursed at by DOT from several states but never ticketed or impounded. Why? Because I know how to read and before ever buying one of these rigs I not only learned but carried with me the laws. Federal law, and state law. I have had the opportunity to do some "educating" of my own.
I am sure there are some great Officers out there that do their job to help make roadways safe and to help motorist to avoid accidents and mishaps and I have all the respect in the world for them. (I saw a state policeman changing a tire for a motorist the other day in the heat) However, the ones that have tried to make my life harder for no valid reason have been little pricks, with a "I'm the boss" attitude that only cared about a paycheck and a retirement from the state. I respond to professionalism and courtesy, not harassment and BS. And targeting a race weekend and track is the latter in my opinion.

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Old 08-10-2012, 03:20 AM   #10
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With all this talk about how everyone's race rigs are in such emaculate condition then there should be no worries at all. You should consider yourselves lucky that they made it public about the inspections, they don't have to do that. You can think you have your equipment in tip top shape but if they want to find some thing wrong they will.
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