LODRS (lack of) Payouts

[Mark Yacavone]

Really, that is what inspired this thread .My friend asked me to look up what he was supposed to get, thinking they made a mistake.
I'll be damned if I could find that info ..They keep it a big secret because it's such an embarrassment.
I found that Div 1 and 7 charges an extra $10 entry, but the round money is padded up more.
I don't get The Ragster, but I've been told the Nat'l payout is hard to find too. It used to be at the bottom of all the event ads..I guess they're ashamed of that too.

[David Lee]

Lets face it we are all red headed step children when it come to the NHRA. We can all make a lot more money going bracket racing

[Mike Carr]

All the payouts are pretty poor at the Divisional lever, for both NHRA and IHRA. 2002 is when I started racing in Stock on a more than one or two race basis. In 2002, an NHRA race was 125 to enter, and 4th round paid 175. This year, 170 for entry and 4th round pays 150. A net loss of $70 compared to then (pay 45 more to enter to get 25 bucks less). IHRA that year was 100 entry, 4th round paid 160. This year, 135 entry and 120 for 4th round (a 75 dollar loss). You have to go to the 5th or even sixth round of a race just to break even on your entry. In NHRA, the Divisionals are necesary because of grade points, ofr thos who want to race National Events.

These payouts...kind of makes the S/SS combo's around the country look better, eh?

[Bob Gullett]

This is what I recieved from our division Director.

2012 NHRA Northwest Division Purse
Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series

Top Alcohol Dragster Top Alcohol Funny Car Comp
Win 2500 Win 2500 Win 1200
Runner-up 1250 Runner-up 1250 Runner-up 700
Semi 900 Semi 900 Semi 275
First Round 600 First Round 600 Quarter Final 150
1st Alternate 200 1st Alternate 200


Super Stock Stock Super Comp
Win 1200 Win 1200 Win 1200
Runner-up 600 Runner-up 500 Runner-up 600
Semi 275 Semi 225 Semi 250
Quarter Final 100 Quarter Final 125 Quarter Final 150
Eighth Final 50 Eighth Final 75 Eighth Final 75


Super Gas Super Street Top Dragster
Win 1200 Win 1200 Win 1200
Runner-up 600 Runner-up 500 Runner-up 600
Semi 250 Semi 225 Semi 300
Quarter Final 150 Quarter Final 125 Quarter Final 150
Eighth Final 75 Eighth Final 75


Top Sportsman Sportsman Motorcycle
Win 1200 Win 1000
Runner-up 600 Runner-up 400
Semi 300 Semi 150
Quarter Final 150 Quarter Final 75


All classes (except TAD & TAFC) require minimum car count of 17
If 16 or less entries, reduce winner by $300, other positions by $100
If 8 or less entries, reduce winner by $400, other positions by $200

If 16 or less entries, payout will be pro-rated.

Requirements for quarter or eighth final payout:
All classes: Only pays quarter finals if 33 or more entries (except Comp)
Comp pays quarters at 17 or more
Only pays eighth finals if 65 or more entries

I had it on a Word file and copied and pasted it.
My wife made it to the 1/4 finals at Spokane and recieved nothing. 5 round race 29 cars.

This is on the Spokane website.
http://www.spokanecountyraceway.com/pdf/86.pdf

This is on the Div. 3 site.
http://www.nhradiv3.com/apcm/templat...150&zoneid=171

[69Cobra]

Can somebody do a comparison vs a national event? I've also looked for payouts and couldn't find anything. If the national events are better then just go to a couple points meets to get your grade points and then don't go back to them. National events count as grade points also right?

[Pistol Pete]

Here in Div.1, the entry fee is $170 for Stock Elim.

Most of the races we get 80-100 plus cars.

If we get 100 x $170.= $17,000. They are only paying out $3300-4000 tops.

That's a nice profit for someone(s).

What i would suggest for us racers to do is try & get everybody to chip in another
10 or 20 dollars to boost up our own payout.

If you take a vote to see if you want ALL the money collected to just go to the winner,
or give some to the R.U. too.

Example: If you collect, let's say $2000. An Extra $1400 to Win & $600 for R.U.

Now you got a better payout day.

Just my 3 cents, (inflation.)


Pistol Pete
1374
I/SA

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Pistol Pete

Here in Div.1, the entry fee is $170 for Stock Elim.

Most of the races we get 80-100 plus cars.

If we get 100 x $170.= $17,000. They are only paying out $3300-4000 tops.

That's a nice profit for someone(s).



Pistol Pete
1374
I/SA

Pete, the problem is that NHRA gets a big flat fee for bringing in the points meet. This fee has gone up substantially in the last 20 years. For some of these tracks, it's the biggest event they have all year. Some of them, in certain demographic areas , couldn't possibly make much profit when it's all said and done.
They just do it for the boost in exposure, and maybe an ego thing too.
Edgewater used to get 550-600 cars, and they don't have a Divisional anymore.
Believe me,...and some of you guys know this, if there was much money to be made with a points meet, they'd still be having one.

I understand Cordova had quite a crowd Friday and Saturday night.

Now , has anyone found the Div 5 payout schedule for 2012 ? I searched the archive on their site, and still don't see it.
I guess S/C was over 64 cars, so the semi's paid more last night, but still, a 5th round loss, $150.00? still sucks.
I think the additional revenue should go back into the middle and later rounds..Agree or disagree?

[Dinsdale]

Originally Posted by Pistol Pete

Here in Div.1, the entry fee is $170 for Stock Elim.

Most of the races we get 80-100 plus cars.

If we get 100 x $170.= $17,000. They are only paying out $3300-4000 tops.

That's a nice profit for someone(s).

You haven't accounted for the expense to actually own and run a track. Taxes,staff utilities etc. A divisional up here used to make money for the track but that's usually not the case anymore. I believe NHRA charges $15,000.00 for the privledge plus you have to buy additional insurance from them for another $5000.00. Add in advertising/promotion and they are in a big hole before the gates open. Bad weather or low car count and it kills the track. That's why a lot of the smaller tracks (at least out West) won't hold divisionals any more.

[C and W Racing]

The national event payouts are always posted in the national dragster. Typically it pays 300 third round, 400 forth round, 500 fifth round, 650 sixth, 1200 runner up and 1800 to win plus 300 for any contingency stickers that pay. Stock and super street the payout is slightly less.
Chuck

[The Hawk]

The payouts for the Divisional races is up to the track`s discretion. If you have a complaint,write your local racing facility. I think ends up a topic on this forum once a year.