Bring back super/mod...

SSDiv6 · 08-22-2012, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Randy, Since it would be a start up class with NHRA and people would still want to run NHRA events in a legal form couldnt the specs make the cars legal for one of the Mod SS classes. They wouldnt be class winner but Points meets would still be legal and fun on the dial in end of it. Keep the chassis Legal rules and MAKE the motor combo allowed legal at the wt.? Then if guys support the class in numbers local or points meet races could be added for fun..

Why dial-in? Make it heads-up, no-dial in. A fair comparison will be a SS/CS car type, but with a designated specific approved cylinder head.

Steve Stickel · 08-22-2012, 11:01 PM

Todays ss/cs engine rules way too liberal as I read whats going on here.. More like a smallblock SS/H Or SS/I car with a smaller cam, say .500 or .550, non- sheetmetal intake, a spec carb, (600-750) etc. I believe a 9.00 weight break at min 3000lbs. (333cu in) would satisfy everybody, the Ford and Chrysler guys included...top out at a maximum of say 3300lbs at 367cu in ...

John Leichtamer Jr · 08-22-2012, 11:18 PM

You guys are taking this alittle to far. This was to be a deal
like it was in the old days with a less expensive engine.

No pro tree, no bull sh*^.
just keep it simple

Hammer

Dick Butler · 08-23-2012, 07:13 AM

John, I agree. The original idea was "simple, Cheap, entry level". A new class with many open modifications wont help. Sealed motor may be too simple, or basic for current racers but if getting new racers in SS, younger participants etc. got to be limited....

SSDiv6 · 08-23-2012, 08:33 AM

I should have been more clear...
When I was referring to SS/CS, I should have said an approved cast iron head, However, like I expressed before, no external oil pumps, no crank trigger, no aluminum rods, no sheet metal intake and a single class with a specific pound to weight ratio.

randy wilson · 08-23-2012, 08:39 AM

OK, to address everyone so far. I don't expect to get my way on very many of these ideas. Let's put that out there first. Also, probably nothing will come of this, let's keep that in mind. And, the guy who won the $100 for quickest light at our track most of the time was Jerry Michaelis, with a 69 camaro, slapper bars, a 2 speed powerglide built by a local transmission guy for $500 dollars. So that pro car argument doesn't fly with me. I averaged between a .419, and a .439 out of six passes with an F bodied SS\CS car one night out of seven rounds. Most weekends I was between .460's and .420's. And we did not have the new LED lights. I think the drivers reaction should come into play. I realise I won't get my way, but that's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Now, for national events, sure, Dick, the chassis should be relative to what's there already Dick may have unknowingly brought a possibility to this class coming to life. Start it as a superstock class, and see how it's receieved. And let people know, if enough interest, would be a class . But give them a realistic index, like they do for 300 other classes. I don't think that would be a bad idea. That would let them run. Also, that idea of no. 16 getting no. 1's heads, and so on, good idea. That would keep us all honest.

08-22-2012, 11:01 PM	#2
Steve Stickel Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Coast, Massachusetts Posts: 146 Likes: 161 Liked 50 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... Todays ss/cs engine rules way too liberal as I read whats going on here.. More like a smallblock SS/H Or SS/I car with a smaller cam, say .500 or .550, non- sheetmetal intake, a spec carb, (600-750) etc. I believe a 9.00 weight break at min 3000lbs. (333cu in) would satisfy everybody, the Ford and Chrysler guys included...top out at a maximum of say 3300lbs at 367cu in ... __________________ Steve Stickel 1161 Stk 1167 SS

08-22-2012, 11:18 PM	#3
John Leichtamer Jr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Orange City Fl Posts: 764 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... You guys are taking this alittle to far. This was to be a deal like it was in the old days with a less expensive engine. No pro tree, no bull sh*^. just keep it simple Hammer

08-23-2012, 07:13 AM	#4
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... John, I agree. The original idea was "simple, Cheap, entry level". A new class with many open modifications wont help. Sealed motor may be too simple, or basic for current racers but if getting new racers in SS, younger participants etc. got to be limited....

08-23-2012, 08:33 AM	#5
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 3,045 Likes: 712 Liked 1,605 Times in 583 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... I should have been more clear... When I was referring to SS/CS, I should have said an approved cast iron head, However, like I expressed before, no external oil pumps, no crank trigger, no aluminum rods, no sheet metal intake and a single class with a specific pound to weight ratio.

08-23-2012, 08:39 AM	#6
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Bring back super/mod... OK, to address everyone so far. I don't expect to get my way on very many of these ideas. Let's put that out there first. Also, probably nothing will come of this, let's keep that in mind. And, the guy who won the $100 for quickest light at our track most of the time was Jerry Michaelis, with a 69 camaro, slapper bars, a 2 speed powerglide built by a local transmission guy for $500 dollars. So that pro car argument doesn't fly with me. I averaged between a .419, and a .439 out of six passes with an F bodied SS\CS car one night out of seven rounds. Most weekends I was between .460's and .420's. And we did not have the new LED lights. I think the drivers reaction should come into play. I realise I won't get my way, but that's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Now, for national events, sure, Dick, the chassis should be relative to what's there already Dick may have unknowingly brought a possibility to this class coming to life. Start it as a superstock class, and see how it's receieved. And let people know, if enough interest, would be a class . But give them a realistic index, like they do for 300 other classes. I don't think that would be a bad idea. That would let them run. Also, that idea of no. 16 getting no. 1's heads, and so on, good idea. That would keep us all honest. __________________ don,t have one