CC/SA at Indy - Page 4

Glenn Hayes · 08-30-2012, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boster

9.38 by Davey and the copo is looking good

That is very impressive!

countrypuppy4865 · 08-31-2012, 11:13 PM

427 copo made that 428 look like it was in slow motion! Very impressive to get on the track with that little testing and perform like they did!

Jared Jordan · 08-31-2012, 11:32 PM

Food for thought -- three CC/SA eligible combo's:

2012 COPO Camaro
427 ci.
14.58:1 CR
.641" cam lift
H/R Lifters
Tunnel Ram Manifold w/EFI
Rated @ 425 hp (3357 lbs.)

2010 Cobra Jet Mustang
428 ci.
12.7:1 CR
.589" cam lift
Solid roller lifters
Single Plane Manifold w/EFI
Rated @ 406 hp (3215 lbs.)

1970 Dodge Challenger
426 ci. Hemi
10.2:1 CR
.490" cam lift
Hydraulic flat tappet lifters
Cast-Iron Dual Plane w/2x4 bbl Carter AVS's
Rated @ 440 hp (3470 lbs.)

Ed Wright · 09-01-2012, 08:07 AM

Jared, you sound like some of us when the bogus drag paks came out. Now the shoe is on the other foot? At least they didn't start out in H/SA.

I asked, when I put up the specs like you just did: On what planet should the 360" drag pak be rated the same as an LT1, which is/was already soft?
My wife could look at those specs and say "No way!"

It's kinda like the old saying that the first liar doesn't have a chance.
Last one to the market is going to trump the earlier versions. do I think it is right? Absolutely not! I think they are all bogus.

Jared Jordan · 09-02-2012, 12:41 PM

Ed,

I posted something similar about the 5.9 Magnum engine vs. a 360 Volare once upon a time. At that point, the 5.9 was rated 14 HP LESS than my mom's car.

My views on the new cars are the same now as they always were: I love watching them, I'd love to have one (even a COPO!), but they have no business running in the same classes as the older combo's with the HP factors out of line.

I omitted the Drag Pak from my previous post only because I felt that a) I'd already typed too much and b) seems like the DP has been brought a bit closer in line factoring-wise compared to the CJ and COPO.

Ed Wright · 09-02-2012, 04:41 PM

Jared, the 360" DP hp factor has not been hit in SS, where I have to live with them. Still at 275. Beyond bogus.

View Poll Results: What combo will win Class in CC/SA at INDY
Copo 427	48	40.00%
Cobra Jet 428	50	41.67%
Mopar 6.7	8	6.67%
Mopar V10	14	11.67%
Voters: 120. You may not vote on this poll

08-31-2012, 11:13 PM	#32
countrypuppy4865 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Donaldsonville, LA Posts: 980 Likes: 17 Liked 228 Times in 70 Posts	Re: CC/SA at Indy 427 copo made that 428 look like it was in slow motion! Very impressive to get on the track with that little testing and perform like they did! __________________ Jimmy "Cooter" Hidalgo, Jr. 4865 E/SA '04 GTO 4865 SS/GA '99 Firebird

08-31-2012, 11:32 PM	#33
Jared Jordan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 612 Likes: 199 Liked 534 Times in 118 Posts	Re: CC/SA at Indy Food for thought -- three CC/SA eligible combo's: 2012 COPO Camaro 427 ci. 14.58:1 CR .641" cam lift H/R Lifters Tunnel Ram Manifold w/EFI Rated @ 425 hp (3357 lbs.) 2010 Cobra Jet Mustang 428 ci. 12.7:1 CR .589" cam lift Solid roller lifters Single Plane Manifold w/EFI Rated @ 406 hp (3215 lbs.) 1970 Dodge Challenger 426 ci. Hemi 10.2:1 CR .490" cam lift Hydraulic flat tappet lifters Cast-Iron Dual Plane w/2x4 bbl Carter AVS's Rated @ 440 hp (3470 lbs.) __________________ Jared Jordan 9 B/SA 2024 Jeg's D7 All Star - Stock

09-01-2012, 08:07 AM	#34
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: CC/SA at Indy Jared, you sound like some of us when the bogus drag paks came out. Now the shoe is on the other foot? At least they didn't start out in H/SA. I asked, when I put up the specs like you just did: On what planet should the 360" drag pak be rated the same as an LT1, which is/was already soft? My wife could look at those specs and say "No way!" It's kinda like the old saying that the first liar doesn't have a chance. Last one to the market is going to trump the earlier versions. do I think it is right? Absolutely not! I think they are all bogus. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

09-02-2012, 12:41 PM	#35
Jared Jordan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 612 Likes: 199 Liked 534 Times in 118 Posts	Re: CC/SA at Indy Ed, I posted something similar about the 5.9 Magnum engine vs. a 360 Volare once upon a time. At that point, the 5.9 was rated 14 HP LESS than my mom's car. My views on the new cars are the same now as they always were: I love watching them, I'd love to have one (even a COPO!), but they have no business running in the same classes as the older combo's with the HP factors out of line. I omitted the Drag Pak from my previous post only because I felt that a) I'd already typed too much and b) seems like the DP has been brought a bit closer in line factoring-wise compared to the CJ and COPO. __________________ Jared Jordan 9 B/SA 2024 Jeg's D7 All Star - Stock

09-02-2012, 04:41 PM	#36
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: CC/SA at Indy Jared, the 360" DP hp factor has not been hit in SS, where I have to live with them. Still at 275. Beyond bogus. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA