It's Time to combine

[Toby Lang]

How about this popular argument that's used when people bring up rule changes?: You knew what the rules were when you built your car. If you want to run with the autos, put an auto in the car.

You know there are some people who put sticks in their cars to get away from heads-up races.


-Toby

[Jeff Lee]

I'd love nothing more that to run all those fast D/SA cars heads up. I've been saying that as long as I've raced Stock (1994).

By the way...I just received a PM from one of the new car race reps. It wouldn't be polite for me to mention who as it was a private message. But it was either COPO, CJ or Drag Pack. He said he was all for combining sticks and autos and eliminating the combo races.

[Ed Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Brad Zaskowski

I think the stick and auto's combined would be cool! Especially if it makes class racing more prestigious again and brings in more class paying contingency sponsors. NHRA just needs to do like others have pointed and keep it simple, same hp ratings, and run at the same weights. If they combined and had everyone run at the auto hp ratings and auto indexes it would only affect less than 14% of the racers running stk and SS. Other than 14% more cars in the classes it wouldn’t affect the auto guys, and what do they care if a few stick cars are in their class everyone knows you can't win in a stick car.
As for the auto being better or worse than a stick for a certain combination, deal with it. Yes right now the stick cars have the auto cars covered in SS/AH but when Westcott was running with the automatic the auto cars were faster. If you think the stick is faster man up and put in a stick, if you think the auto is faster and want to turn in your man card go get an automatic.
I don’t think combining the two would do away with the sticks. Pretty much everyone with a stick car right now wouldn’t change if they were given an auto trans.

Brad I'm getting that license plate made "Where's your man card?"

[Ed Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Toby Lang

How about this popular argument that's used when people bring up rule changes?: You knew what the rules were when you built your car. If you want to run with the autos, put an auto in the car.

You know there are some people who put sticks in their cars to get away from heads-up races.


-Toby

And some put them in their car so they have something to do while they go down the track!

[Tom keedle]

Originally Posted by deuces wild

And some put them in their car so they have something to do while they go down the track!

no kidding, if i had to run an automatic, i wouldn't even build this american...
one of the biggest reasons for running stock is the CHANCE you may get a heads-up run.
i'm sure NOT gonna hide from one just to win...

[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by deuces wild

And some put them in their car so they have something to do while they go down the track!

I race an "automatic",but I still shift.Still have something to do.I don't use a clutch to shift,but then again,do you?

[Dave Tincher]

Originally Posted by deuces wild

Brad I'm getting that license plate made "Where's your man card?"

First off I respect all the stick racers, heck the ones I'm at the track with are stick guys and they love it. I personally choose to race a automatic and I love it does that make me less of a man? I received my man card in the US marines in 1994 and I still carry that card with me daily if you all think because what you choose to do or drive at the track makes you a man then that's fine, but if you want to see some real life scares that came with my man card stop by and check mine out sometime...... I'm all for combining sticks and autos if we make it a level playing field with the same hp ratings for them both....is that what you want.

I think you are taking that joke to seriously. First of all, thank you for your service to our great country.
Second, nobody is trying to draw a parallel between real word danger and sacrifice, and driving a race car. Please don't take it anyway other than some harmless ribbing.

Combine the Sticks and auto with the current factored HP.
The automatic technology is so far advanced, plus having the performance advantage of radial drag slicks. Something that stick cars don't run.

Originally Posted by Dave Tincher

First off I respect all the stick racers, heck the ones I'm at the track with are stick guys and they love it. I personally choose to race a automatic and I love it does that make me less of a man? I received my man card in the US marines in 1994 and I still carry that card with me daily if you all think because what you choose to do or drive at the track makes you a man then that's fine, but if you want to see some real life scares that came with my man card stop by and check mine out sometime...... I'm all for combining sticks and autos if we make it a level playing field with the same hp ratings for them both....is that what you want.

[Ed Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Dave Tincher

First off I respect all the stick racers, heck the ones I'm at the track with are stick guys and they love it. I personally choose to race a automatic and I love it does that make me less of a man? I received my man card in the US marines in 1994 and I still carry that card with me daily if you all think because what you choose to do or drive at the track makes you a man then that's fine, but if you want to see some real life scares that came with my man card stop by and check mine out sometime...... I'm all for combining sticks and autos if we make it a level playing field with the same hp ratings for them both....is that what you want.

Brad and I joke about this all the time. I'm not out to offend anyone. In fact every race I go to I get the "why in the hell do you race a stick". I do it because my dad raced for 30 years with a stick. I was raised on it and choose to keep it going. I'm not trying to offend anyone. If you can't have fun with people at the races where can you?